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Toddler screaming at bedtime, advice? **milfshake** London, United Kingdom 31630 posts
30th Sep '11

This isn't for me, its for a friend. My son is the perfect sleeper :D Compared to this kid he is an angel.

She will be 2 in November. She has never been the perfect sleeper, but she has NEVER been THIS terrible. She was ferberized (sp?) when she was about 6 months old, and in the recent months she has started throwing tantrums at bedtime. She is on a scheduled routine; dinner around 6, bathtime at 8, and then we all watch a little baby genius episode (some nights) or read a book, then it is bedtime. So bedtime is around 8:45 sometimes 9:00.

She will scream for hours when she is put to bed. I mean...she keeps it up for a good 2-3 hours sometimes. We've tried going in and laying her back down (without talking), referberizing, ignoring...pretty much everything. We have even tried laying down with her and she will just lay with her eyes open and stay awake :?

Has anyone ever dealt with anything like this? Should we just keep letting her CIO? There is nothing wrong with her, I honestly think she is just spoiled and doesn't want to go to sleep.

TIA.

[Doe Eyed Dirty Lurker] ; 18 kids; noneya, TN, United States 3245 posts
30th Sep '11

My son does EXACTLY what you described. He just fights his sleep. I do a combination of sleep cds, laying with him, or just letting him lay alone...depending on what he needs at that particular time.



Its not because hes spoiled, he just has trouble.

♥Alicia&Kyler♥ 1 child; Washington 6258 posts
30th Sep '11

when you say : "ferberized (sp?) when she was about 6 months old"



are you taliking about the Richard Ferber method?

Mommax2_:) Due April 13 (boy); 1 child; New York 604 posts
30th Sep '11

does she still nap? my daughter (also 2) will not go to bed at a decent time if she naps after about 430pm. If she doesnt nap she will go to sleep on her own around 9pm but if she does nap than i usually have to fight a little to get her down. Also is she stimulated enough during the day? Like actively playing hard like running around and being active? if not then it could be pent up energy that she just needs to get out.

ρiηkie ρie 3 kids; 3 angel babies; Kentucky 21902 posts
30th Sep '11

Honestly, LO does the same most of the time. I've tried everything too. Now, when she decides she wants to scream, I just get her up and let her run around until she wears herself out. I have found however that on nights where she's just up later in general, bath comes later, bed time story comes later, etc she goes to sleep without too much fuss. I think as they get older they hit a point where they want to be up because you're up. Kwim? Sorry I don't have any better advice.

user banned 1 child; Germany 12377 posts
30th Sep '11

Maybe by 9pm she's overtired, which will make it harder for her to fall asleep! That's a fairly late bedtime, try moving it to 8pm. Also, my daughter freaks if I take her away from the TV so I have that off long before bedtime. Try replacing the tv with a book and incorporate songs into the routine so she's more excited to go to bed. Another thing that helps me is telling my daughter what we're doing the next day, like: "Tomorrow we're going to have cereal for breakfast, watch some Barney, then go to the park! You need to sleep first, and we'll do that when you wake up." etc.

**milfshake** London, United Kingdom 31630 posts
30th Sep '11
Quoting ♥Alicia&Kyler♥:" when you say : "ferberized (sp?) when she was about 6 months old" are you taliking about the Richard Ferber method?"


Sure...the one where you go in every few minutes to comfort?

**milfshake** London, United Kingdom 31630 posts
30th Sep '11
Quoting Rachel.2011:" Maybe by 9pm she's overtired, which will make it harder for her to fall asleep! That's a fairly late ... [snip!] ... for breakfast, watch some Barney, then go to the park! You need to sleep first, and we'll do that when you wake up." etc."


The reading books has been tried too...seriously, NOTHING works at all with her. We even changed her diet. Tried taking her outside to make her tired so she will be more sleepy...

♥Alicia&Kyler♥ 1 child; Washington 6258 posts
30th Sep '11
Quoting **milfshake**:" Sure...the one where you go in every few minutes to comfort?"


yeah I am reading up on it... and pretty much is just like CIO method... maybe she was too young at 6 months and now she is traumatized....

**milfshake** London, United Kingdom 31630 posts
30th Sep '11
Quoting Mommax2_:):" does she still nap? my daughter (also 2) will not go to bed at a decent time if she naps after about ... [snip!] ... playing hard like running around and being active? if not then it could be pent up energy that she just needs to get out."


I forgot to mention that...half of the time she does the SAME thing at nap time...and when she DOES nap, its only for like an hour :?

My LO is 2 months older then her, and he naps for like 2 hours :?

**milfshake** London, United Kingdom 31630 posts
30th Sep '11
Quoting ♥Alicia&Kyler♥:" yeah I am reading up on it... and pretty much is just like CIO method... maybe she was too young at 6 months and now she is traumatized...."


That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard :? Traumatized? So wouldn't she have always been like this is she were traumatized? Yeah...but she hasn't.




**milfshake** London, United Kingdom 31630 posts
30th Sep '11
Quoting Rachel.2011:" Maybe by 9pm she's overtired, which will make it harder for her to fall asleep! That's a fairly late ... [snip!] ... for breakfast, watch some Barney, then go to the park! You need to sleep first, and we'll do that when you wake up." etc."


9 pm isn't late considering her schedule...but I will try moving it more toward 8:30.

It seems like no matter WHEN she is put to bed, she just won't sleep :? IDK, maybe she has insomnia? :lol:

user banned 1 child; Germany 12377 posts
30th Sep '11
Quoting **milfshake**:" The reading books has been tried too...seriously, NOTHING works at all with her. We even changed her diet. Tried taking her outside to make her tired so she will be more sleepy..."

I don't know if it'll work for bedtime but this is what I do for nap time: She has toys in her room and if she's adament about not sleeping, I tell her to play quietly in her bed. She'll put herself to bed that way...

user banned 1 child; Germany 12377 posts
30th Sep '11
Quoting **milfshake**:" 9 pm isn't late considering her schedule...but I will try moving it more toward 8:30. It seems like no matter WHEN she is put to bed, she just won't sleep :? IDK, maybe she has insomnia? :lol:"

What time does she wake up in the morning, and does she nap?

**milfshake** London, United Kingdom 31630 posts
30th Sep '11
Quoting Rachel.2011:" I don't know if it'll work for bedtime but this is what I do for nap time: She has toys in her room and ... [snip!] ... her room and if she's adament about not sleeping, I tell her to play quietly in her bed. She'll put herself to bed that way..."


Hmmm I will try that too...she already goes to bed with her favorite blankey and her binki...

But honestly she is starting to drive not only her mother, but ME insane :?