* Sara * 2 kids; Texas 18864 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting Im watching you:" im only on page three and im amazed that this is such a debate why are so many people defending the ... [snip!] ... their actions sorry to be so abrupt but i believe jail should be hard it may deter repeat offenders well i could only wish"


Cutting out education and job does NOT deter criminals from committing crimes. It does the exact opposite. Former inmates get out into the real world without an education or any kind of skills and they return to a life of crime in order to put food on the table or because they feel like it's their only way. Do some research, please.

Im watching you 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Adelaide, Australia 4985 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting * Sara *:" Cutting out education and job does NOT deter criminals from committing crimes. It does the exact opposite. ... [snip!] ... to a life of crime in order to put food on the table or because they feel like it's their only way. Do some research, please."


no need to research
have had my whole life dealing with the prison system
and when i say whole life i mean 40 years of having both parents working in the system

cfxfdfdfdsfdafdsf Vacaville, California 71166 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting Im watching you:" im only on page three and im amazed that this is such a debate why are so many people defending the ... [snip!] ... their actions sorry to be so abrupt but i believe jail should be hard it may deter repeat offenders well i could only wish"


You agree with OP because, like OP, you have no clue as to how the system works.



The people that are working aren't prisoners that raped and murdered people. They're people that are in there for crimes where another human wasn't harmed and are in the process of transitioning back into society. The reason they're allowed to work OUTSIDE of the jail is because they're in a transition program that helps them slowly transition into being a functioning part of society again. it's a good program for them and without the transition wouldnt only be hard on them, but the rest of the people they interact with in society as well.

cfxfdfdfdsfdafdsf Vacaville, California 71166 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting * Sara *:" Cutting out education and job does NOT deter criminals from committing crimes. It does the exact opposite. ... [snip!] ... to a life of crime in order to put food on the table or because they feel like it's their only way. Do some research, please."


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Seriously, lol.

cfxfdfdfdsfdafdsf Vacaville, California 71166 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting Im watching you:" no need to research have had my whole life dealing with the prison system and when i say whole life i mean 40 years of having both parents working in the system"


well it's kind of apparent that they didn't teach you shit. And, quite frankly, you have no dealing with the system... Your parents do.

Im watching you 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Adelaide, Australia 4985 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting Impossibly impossible*:" well it's kind of apparent that they didn't teach you shit. And, quite frankly, you have no dealing with the system... Your parents do."


ok lol
you are right i have no idea



maybe our system is different to yours , wouldnt that be a shock
different country , different system
wow who would of thought such a thing

cfxfdfdfdsfdafdsf Vacaville, California 71166 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting Im watching you:" ok lol you are right i have no idea maybe our system is different to yours , wouldnt that be a shock different country , different system wow who would of thought such a thing"


The systems don't vary so much that y'all have rapists and murders running around taking jobs that others could use. ha. but nice try.

Im watching you 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Adelaide, Australia 4985 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting White Trash Slut*:" The systems don't vary so much that y'all have rapists and murders running around taking jobs that others could use. ha. but nice try."



so when they are ready to be released into society then they are just thrown into the real world then
no help from the system , sorry but no
they are given the same as others , otherwise how would they function in the world if they were not treated the same as others that are getting released



The people that are working aren't prisoners that raped and murdered people. They're people that are in there for crimes where another human wasn't harmed and are in the process of transitioning back into society. The reason they're allowed to work OUTSIDE of the jail is because they're in a transition program that helps them slowly transition into being a functioning part of society again. it's a good program for them and without the transition wouldnt only be hard on them, but the rest of the people they interact with in society as well.



so the ones that raped and murdered people are not given the same treatment as someone that deals drugs , or mugged someone



hmmmm

cfxfdfdfdsfdafdsf Vacaville, California 71166 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting Im watching you:" so when they are ready to be released into society then they are just thrown into the real world then ... [snip!] ... ones that raped and murdered people are not given the same treatment as someone that deals drugs , or mugged someone hmmmm"


exacttttly.
No, they're not. Most of the time rapists / murderers (here) are in there for a lot longer than someone that got busted on a drug charge or burglary, etc.

Im watching you 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Adelaide, Australia 4985 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting White Trash Slut*:" exacttttly. No, they're not. Most of the time rapists / murderers (here) are in there for a lot longer than someone that got busted on a drug charge or burglary, etc."


im not sure if its the same in america but life doesnt mean life
its only about 25 years with parole coming up in some cases after 15 years



over here they get help to enter society
and even with all the help they get that unfortunately does not stop them from re commiting a crime



most , not all , but most people that have been in jail seem to commit crimes again



at the prison my mother worked in they even had woman trying to break in , not out , as they just couldnt handle it on the outside , and that was with all the help they got



they find it "easier" so to speak , to stay in jail , as they feel "safe and feel like they are home"



cfxfdfdfdsfdafdsf Vacaville, California 71166 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting Im watching you:" im not sure if its the same in america but life doesnt mean life its only about 25 years with parole ... [snip!] ... help they got they find it "easier" so to speak , to stay in jail , as they feel "safe and feel like they are home" "


You usually only get parole if you're a first time offender (not always then, even) and it's not likely they'll give you parole on a murder charge. No, most people do not commit crimes again. SOME do, but not most. That's the point of transition programs -- to deter that from happening.

Im watching you 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Adelaide, Australia 4985 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting White Trash Slut*:" You usually only get parole if you're a first time offender (not always then, even) and it's not likely ... [snip!] ... do not commit crimes again. SOME do, but not most. That's the point of transition programs -- to deter that from happening."


we have pedophiles that offend , get out , then re offend , get charged , go to jail , get parole , get out and start re offending again and they are stuck in that cycle
happens all to often



we have one guy in particular that keeps getting run out of communities as they know he will re offend as he makes no apologies



unfortunately it isn't enough for some
they get all the help and they still re offend



* Sara * 2 kids; Texas 18864 posts
24th Feb '12
Quoting White Trash Slut*:" well it's kind of apparent that they didn't teach you shit. And, quite frankly, you have no dealing with the system... Your parents do."

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