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Starting milk supply/pumping for donation after stillbirth Dr. Mrs. The Monarch 1 child; 3 angel babies; N/a, Na, United States 1020 posts
3rd May '12

Does anyone have any advice with starting a milk supply by pump only? or experience pumping for donation after a loss?



I gave birth yesterday to my stillborn daughter. I really want to donate my milk. I took a breastfeeding class while I was pregnant, read the Le Leche League's book, and I talked with the nurses and the lactation consultant at the hospital and I just really want to get started on the right foot and thought that asking here for any other advice would be a good idea.



The LC said that pumping colostrum is more difficult because it's so thick, and that once my milk comes in the pump should be fine. She said hand expression might do better for me until then. Did anyone else find this to be helpful/true?

i3rittanydanielle 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Brimley, Michigan 5035 posts
3rd May '12

Look for a breast milk bank near you.

Halpert 3 kids; Ohio 34411 posts
3rd May '12

Firstly, Im so sorry for your loss mama :(




I never tried to express any colostrum.. it wouldnt hurt to try doing both ways until your milk is in... It might help if you started taking fenugreek when you start pumping.. And you're probably going to have to pump around the clock like you would with a newborn at first to get your milk supply established... If you can I would try and see if you can get in touch with a local milk bank and see if they have any info or resources for you :)




You're doing a really great thing :)

Dr. Mrs. The Monarch 1 child; 3 angel babies; N/a, Na, United States 1020 posts
3rd May '12
Quoting i3rittanydanielle:" Look for a breast milk bank near you."


I got that info. My concerns are about pumping/stimulation until my milk comes in and advice about the actual act of pumping from the beginning.

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27466 posts
3rd May '12

I don't have any advice... but I want to say congratulations and give hugs for turning your tragedy into something good for babies that need it.



**hugs**

Dr. Mrs. The Monarch 1 child; 3 angel babies; N/a, Na, United States 1020 posts
3rd May '12
Quoting Halpert♥:" Firstly, Im so sorry for your loss mama :( I never tried to express any colostrum.. it wouldnt hurt ... [snip!] ... in touch with a local milk bank and see if they have any info or resources for you :) You're doing a really great thing :)"


I've been pumping every couple of hours. I don't get any colostrum coming out from pumping so far. I get an ok amount of colostrum from hand expression but not enough to collect yet.

IDGAF ❤ 1 child; Don't worry about it, CA, United States 30934 posts
3rd May '12
Quoting Dr. Mrs. The Monarch:" I got that info. My concerns are about pumping/stimulation until my milk comes in and advice about the actual act of pumping from the beginning."

Well at the beginning I had to pump because my baby was in the NICU for a week and I didn't get much out with a pump, hand expressing helped a ton and I got more but I was told that the pump stimulates the milk supply better. Sorry for your loss, you are doing a great thing by donating.

thats me. :) 18 kids; Edmonton, Alberta 3275 posts
3rd May '12

Im so sorry to hear about your loss.

Who's That Lady 1 child; Maryland 1230 posts
4th May '12

First of all, let me applaud you for your decision. Turning your personal loss into a blessing for other people, that takes a lot of heart, especially when the loss is this great. May God bless you and keep you safe.



There is a group on Facebook called "Breastfeeding Mamas." Just because you aren't actually breastfeeding doesn't mean you won't encounter some of the same problems.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/170367923031896/



My daughter was in the NICU for a week, and during that time, I had to pump. The hospital had the Medela Symphony, and that pump is AWESOME. Works much better than the Ameda Egnell my insurance pays for. I sat there and ran the pump for 15 minutes before milk would actually come out, and pump for 15 minutes after that. I didn't get much at first, but I did it every 2 hours, and in a day or so, my milk came in full force. So don't completely give up on pumping. It takes patience, but it does work.
Do be careful, though, once my milk came in, I foolishly pumped every hour and a half to keep from getting engorged and just ended up getting more engorged, and now I have a serious oversupply (2 more weeks and I can start donating myself!).



Some things that help with milk production are:
-Fenugreek
-Milk Thistle
-Clif / Luna Bars (These STILL make me engorged at 4 weeks PP)
-Oats, particularly steel cut oats
-Lactation Cookies
-LOTS of water

Dr. Mrs. The Monarch 1 child; 3 angel babies; N/a, Na, United States 1020 posts
4th May '12
Quoting 'Lisha MrsWilliams:" First of all, let me applaud you for your decision. Turning your personal loss into a blessing for other ... [snip!] ... / Luna Bars (These STILL make me engorged at 4 weeks PP) -Oats, particularly steel cut oats -Lactation Cookies -LOTS of water"


I have a double electric Hygeia Enjoye breast pump. It's suppose to be a step above the medela and about as good as hospital grade.



Thank you for posting for about how long you pumped each session. I've been doing it for about 30-40 minutes each session and didn't know if that was long enough. The last few sessions I started getting what looks to the stage of a part colostrum part first milk. It comes in about halfway through the session but only from my right breast.



I've been really massaging my breast tissue from the collarbone and armpit in, and doing "c" hand compressions to express some before pumping.



My left breast will only seem to moisten the flange. The right one is getting maybe a half a ml.



I've tried moist hot hand towels laid over my breasts, and a warm mircowave bean bag pack to try to help stimulate let down.



Is there anything else you can think of the help stimulate let down?

Who's That Lady 1 child; Maryland 1230 posts
4th May '12
Quoting Dr. Mrs. The Monarch:" I have a double electric Hygeia Enjoye breast pump. It's suppose to be a step above the medela and about ... [snip!] ... bean bag pack to try to help stimulate let down. Is there anything else you can think of the help stimulate let down?"


I had problems getting my right side to respond to the pump at first. It finally straightened itself out last week. I tried everything, warm compresses, hot showers, hand expression, I even videotaped her nursing, but the only thing that worked was staying still, being patient, and drinking water when the milk started flowing. I still have to do that now, even with her in the same room. Weird how our bodies work sometimes..



That group I told you about has a document for ladies who can only use the pump. This is from the article:
"To increase production (besides pumping more or for longer):
Goat's rue, alfalfa, anise, blessed thistle, borage, comfrey, chasteberry, dill, flaxseed oil, fennel, ignatia, marshmallow root (best when used in conjunction with fenugreek), red clover, red raspberry, and blue vervain (verbena).



Hops, nettle leaf, motherwort, red raspberry leaf, and chamomile tea are also considered effective herbal supplements for breast milk production. Fennel stimulates the let-down reflex.



While oatmeal is a grain rather than an herb, it has also been used to stimulate breast milk production. A large bowl of oatmeal can be eaten in place of one (or two) regular meals; adding artificially flavored maple syrup to the oatmeal can increase the milk-production benefits by adding an extra boost of fenugreek.



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