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Cast Your Vote:

    • Yes, BG secret posters should be protected -- Votes: 351
    • NO, You use the account, you take the risk of being exposed -- Votes: 59
    • ...does not compute -- Votes: 5
Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
Aug 16th '12

What was the point of the secrets account if it isn't meant to be completely protected? Gossiping about it and trying to match who asked for the account info with what threads posted is also disturbing. I know why it was wanted to be controlled so badly now, so people can have info on others to "use" when the time is right. It's bullshit, plain and simple. Not to mention, someone may ask for it who chickens out before they actually use it or they may wait a few days. So not only are you attempting to "out" someone, you are outing the wrong person. And outing in a roundabout way is still outing them, IMO.

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting [wtf] i'm heather.:" So like if I was reading something I knew someone's kids were G, J & H. They posted a secret about cheating ... [snip!] ... on her husband and everything else. I'm not sure that's grounds for a ban on my part. Why were they a little more cautious."


You shouldn't be pondering who they could be anyway. It should be respected that they posted on the secrets account.

Mara Due September 27 (girl); 2 kids; San Francisco, California 38965 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mara:</b>" when the member is clearly connected to their post ... [snip!] ... gay without saying "you even said on the bg secrets account". It's easy to attack a secret without saying where you heard it."


if it doesn't connect them to their posting, it's not even part of the issue, then.



if you say something that undeniably connects them to their secrets post, you're being a huge d**k -- regardless of how you came by that information.



telling someone they're gay w/out connecting it to the account has nothing to do w/ the account, unless when you're identifying it you make it clear that they're the person who posted about being gay on the BG secrets account.

Mara Due September 27 (girl); 2 kids; San Francisco, California 38965 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Moses.:" What was the point of the secrets account if it isn't meant to be completely protected? Gossiping about ... [snip!] ... are you attempting to "out" someone, you are outing the wrong person. And outing in a roundabout way is still outing them, IMO."


what does that mean exactly?



i agree w/ your first statement. i voted to ban -- so this is just a poll to make sure we're all on the same page.

The Great Mustachio Suck It, PO, Uzbekistan 9385 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Moses.:" What was the point of the secrets account if it isn't meant to be completely protected? Gossiping about ... [snip!] ... are you attempting to "out" someone, you are outing the wrong person. And outing in a roundabout way is still outing them, IMO."


I have to roll with this.

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mara:</b>" when the member is clearly connected to their post ... [snip!] ... gay without saying "you even said on the bg secrets account". It's easy to attack a secret without saying where you heard it."


Attacking a secret shouldn't be outed, period. Even if you "protect" yourself by saying you didn't hear about it on the secret's account.

The Great Mustachio Suck It, PO, Uzbekistan 9385 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mara:</b>" if it doesn't connect them to their posting, it's ... [snip!] ... ban. KWIM? How about a mod who has the password saying in a pm, a ptot, or in public that so and so asked for the password?"


Why would a mod even volunteer that to anyone outside of an emergency o.O



Are people really that crazy on here?

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Mara:" what does that mean exactly? i agree w/ your first statement. i voted to ban -- so this is just a poll to make sure we're all on the same page. "


Exactly what Goblin said a few posts up. Outing them without screaming "I KNOW YOU POSTED ON THE BG SECRETS ACCOUNT!" If you are simply using "I heard blah blah blah, don't deny it, it's true and you know it" it's still outing them, you just aren't admitting to where it was "heard" from.

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mara:</b>" if it doesn't connect them to their posting, it's ... [snip!] ... ban. KWIM? How about a mod who has the password saying in a pm, a ptot, or in public that so and so asked for the password?"


IMO that person has no business with the information either, unless that information is going directly to one of the others trusted with it.

Kim ♥ 2247517922 2 kids; Colorado Springs, CO, United States 26777 posts
Aug 16th '12

I think if we get too far into drama and stuff on BG, all of this is going to be gray area. I mean, I have a lot of my PT on my facebook as well and vent in a group to them on there. What if I tell one of them my 'secret' on facebook and they don't know I posted it in the secrets account. Unexpected drama occurs and a fight comes out and they unknowingly (that it was posted in bg secrets) share my secret?



Same effect if someone else reads the secret post and tells someone else but didn't say where they heard it. Again, someone unknowingly outing a secret.



There are probably other examples... but I feel like people being banned for this is a little harsh IMO. I don't know what happened that brought this poll to be but I think it should be taken on a case by case basis.

Tasha & Nika 2 kids; San Jose, CA, United States 16053 posts
Aug 16th '12

I think hinting in a minor or major way, or full-out blatantly outing a BG secrets poster is for one a very immature thing to do. I don't know if this stemmed from anything in particular, and I hope it didn't - but yes, I believe that that is a completely ban-worthy offense.

Tasha & Nika 2 kids; San Jose, CA, United States 16053 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Mara:" ah, good point. i'm just looking at this from the a*****e angle. "


I think there's still a discreet way of going about 'saving someone's life'. As in, through you or a mod, or other close friends. The person who believes they have information on another person who might harm themselves should not come out and make a FFA post about it, ya know? If anything that might very well make the situation worse.




If I were in that position and believed a friend was about to harm themselves, I'd go straight to close friends or family of said friend, if that weren't possible and time was an issue, I'd call the police.



Making an 'out' post on Gaga would not remedy the situation in any way, just worsen it, even if the intent was to help. Gaga is not the place for a staged intervention.

Sweet lullaby Dearborn Heights, Michigan 30436 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Chuck Finley.:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mara:</b>" making an accusation / statement on the public boards ... [snip!] ... they post a city and state saying "I'll see you in hell Michigan" because the BG secrets user said to go to hell to the member."


thats not why I figured out it was her. It was the WHOLE post. Not that part at all, Alot of people on here say it. She gave out WAY to much info in that post, that I knew which account she was and her threads., It was almost a copy and paste.

Mara Due September 27 (girl); 2 kids; San Francisco, California 38965 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mara:</b>" if it doesn't connect them to their posting, it's ... [snip!] ... ban. KWIM? How about a mod who has the password saying in a pm, a ptot, or in public that so and so asked for the password?"


yeah, i guess this whole "law-makin'' thing is more complex than a quick fire-off, eh?



for this case - it's a ban too.



bg-secret keepers = keep yo' damned mouth shut.

let it be California 41018 posts
Aug 16th '12
Quoting Sweet lullaby:" thats not why I figured out it was her. It was the WHOLE post. Not that part at all, Alot of people ... [snip!] ... She gave out WAY to much info in that post, that I knew which account she was and her threads., It was almost a copy and paste."


I know sweetie.