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Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting awesomebrandi:" Shooting for free is how I started. I did tons, and tons.. but the key is just to treat it just like you ARE getting money. Contracts/model releases, set expectations, etc."


When I did free shoots, I was TRYING to treat it like a paid shoot but the clients weren't going with that. I think they had the mentality of "Oh we didn't pay her so what do we have to lose for badgering her and asking for all of this other shit?"

existentialism 2 kids; Texas 16990 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting Michael Westen:" When I did free shoots, I was TRYING to treat it like a paid shoot but the clients weren't going with ... [snip!] ... had the mentality of "Oh we didn't pay her so what do we have to lose for badgering her and asking for all of this other shit?""

That does suck. I never really ran into any issues myself.

min. 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Lorain, Ohio 2395 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting awesomebrandi:" Shooting for free is how I started. I did tons, and tons.. but the key is just to treat it just like you ARE getting money. Contracts/model releases, set expectations, etc."


I'm just joining the group, but I did this same thing when I was starting out. It was so hard for me to gain support from my husband and family because they felt like I was just letting people take advantage of me without understanding that people definitely need to see your work (which you have to build up) before hiring and paying you.

Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting awesomebrandi:" That does suck. I never really ran into any issues myself."


It's the story of my life. Lol. I am gonna do like 50 or 75% off for new "types" of sessions so at least they are paying SOMETHING (and I'm hoping that makes them appreciate a little bit). But I'm really hoping I can just do solely newborns/maternity/seniors. But I'm second shooting a wedding in June so we will see if I want to ever make that venture.

Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting min.:" I'm just joining the group, but I did this same thing when I was starting out. It was so hard for me ... [snip!] ... without understanding that people definitely need to see your work (which you have to build up) before hiring and paying you."


Do you have a business page??

Lil Glo Worm 1 child; Alberta 4062 posts
30th Dec '12

In the spirit of New Years Eve DH and I are planning on taking LO to our festival of lights and the fire works, I have my 18-105mm lens and then my 50mm which would give me the best results??

existentialism 2 kids; Texas 16990 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting Lil Glo Worm:" In the spirit of New Years Eve DH and I are planning on taking LO to our festival of lights and the fire works, I have my 18-105mm lens and then my 50mm which would give me the best results??"

For fireworks you're going to want a longer lens so I'd go with the 18-105. You also don't really need a really wide aperture, it's more about shutter speed.

Lil Glo Worm 1 child; Alberta 4062 posts
30th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting awesomebrandi:</b>" For fireworks you're going to want a longer lens so I'd go with the 18-105. You also don't really need a really wide aperture, it's more about shutter speed."</blockquote>




Wonderful thank you!

no name again Cairo, Egypt 9797 posts
30th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting L☮J:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Cheryle [TOG]:</b>" Hi everyone. We're at the in-laws so I can't ... [snip!] ... would select view desktop version and you'll be able to see BG like normal. :) Not sure if Apples stock browser allows you to"</blockquote>



Thanks! I'll have to check if I can find something.

no name again Cairo, Egypt 9797 posts
30th Dec '12

I started out shooting for free too and I totally agree that you have to treat it as if it were a paid shoot. And just like a paid shoot, you have to make it clear to the client what to expect. What do they give you (type of shoot, who/how many people involved, signed model release etc.) and what do you give them (length/type of shoot, edited pics? prints/digital files? rights to make additional prints? etc etc) The more business like you act, the more you will be treated as a business even if you aren't really one yet.

Mrs.Dani Due July 3; 1 child; 3 angel babies; Oxnard, California 10272 posts
30th Dec '12

Hey guys, I went out and took some pics today! Yay! :D



Well I can't decide if I like the first or the second? I am thinking the second, I am not sure if I like the "haze". These are both SOOC:



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Bonnie Beaver♥ TTC since Jan 2014; 2 kids; North Pole, Alaska 18155 posts
30th Dec '12

LOVE this lens.



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Ryleigh's Mama ♥ 17 kids; West Virginia 10703 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting Mrs.Dani:" Hey guys, I went out and took some pics today! Yay! :D Well I can't decide if I like the first or the second? I am thinking the second, I am not sure if I like the "haze". These are both SOOC: "


I like the second better. I love haze, but I feel like in the first one, it's too much & washes the overall photo out. I love his lashes! He's precious.

Ryleigh's Mama ♥ 17 kids; West Virginia 10703 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting Legendary Bonnie Beaver:" LOVE this lens. "


Beautiful! Is this the one year old you did today?

Bonnie Beaver♥ TTC since Jan 2014; 2 kids; North Pole, Alaska 18155 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting Ryleigh's Mommy ♥:" Beautiful! Is this the one year old you did today? "


Yup. haha