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blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
5th Sep '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ole' No Name:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting momma melissa85:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ole' ... [snip!] ... in Tennessee? im worried about the MMR vaccine. Have you ever heard of a 12 month old dying from vaccines like that?"</blockquote>



The polio, hib, dtap, mmr, and cv have all given children the same thing they vaccinate against. Just bc some kids done die or get autism doesnt mean that they are safe and that kids don't have other symptoms or side affects from them. I questioned them but asked lots of questions to her pediatrician. She said the only side affect she ever saw was sore injection site and fevers. I got a flu and tdap vaccine and developed a muscle disorder and lost my voice and my throat closed up. I was told it was not vaccine related. Everything else was blamed and I was even told I was overreacting. I believed them then got my dd her 2 month shots. She quit trying to hold her head up, she shrieked for no reason, clawed at her face, quit sucking and would not eat, I had to force feed her. She went to being awake 18 hours a day to sleeping 18 hours a day. I was told it was not vaccine related and she had avid reflux. I did not believe them bc she was fine until 2 hours after her shots as was I.




Vaccines are grossly under reported and too many people belittle parents who have vaccine injured children or deaths.



Every parent should make their own decisions and all of my friends vaccinate. They are constantly sick and I know children who have had seizures and spinal taps after vaccines. I just look at it like the fda approves all these drugs and they always list side affects and how many recalls do you see on tv for them? And law suits. How many recalls or law suits have you heard of fir vaccines? People go.not deny that a side affect if tylenol is liver problems but it is a pain and fever reducer. If something that "mild" can cause such serious issues then what about vaccines? Hell a pack of gum can cause kidney failure due to the aspartame in it.




I started questioning vaccines and since then I have changed my whole life. Mainly I question the government.



Sorry to rant lol just one if those days but if you are confident with your research then more power to you :) most people do it without research and I say that people should at least research.

Courtney Jayne Due October 1; 1 child; Audubon, Iowa 103 posts
5th Sep '12

I totally respect your opinion and choice not to vaccinate but the truth is either way it's a risk. Just as walking outside each time is a risk. I was vaccinated as a child and so was my husband, along with my 5 year old daughter and none of us have had any reaction in any way. In fact we are so healthy we haven't seen a doctor for anything but a check up in years. None us even have a single allergy and my daughter has never even been on an antibiotic. There is a reason they started vaccinating children, because the benefits outweighed the possible risks. It sounds all well and good not to vaccinate but wait until all these unvaccinated children start dying of horrible diseases like polio and watch it spread like wildfire. Then who will be to blame? There's always got to be someone to blame and in reality some people just don't live to be 90. It's sad but true. It's been the case since the dawn of time. People use to accept it as fate and in our entitled world today people are looking to blame anything they can.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
5th Sep '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Courtney Jayne:</b>" I totally respect your opinion and choice not to vaccinate but the truth is either way it's a risk. Just ... [snip!] ... dawn of time. People use to accept it as fate and in our entitled world today people are looking to blame anything they can."</blockquote>



I totally respect your choice to vaccinate your children. And as you are entitled to do what you want with your children it is my right to do what is right for my family. Don't belittle me, my views and choices as if you know what is better for my family than you.
There are plenty of risks involved in vaccinating. Such as mercury that is in fact a poison being included in the seasonal flu shot and swine flu vacc.
This might go right over the top of your head but just to let you know vaccinations don't protect you against anything other than what is said. So the fact that you haven't been sick or your children is because of good genes.

Courtney Jayne Due October 1; 1 child; Audubon, Iowa 103 posts
5th Sep '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Angie Mother of Boys:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Courtney Jayne:</b>" I totally respect your opinion and choice ... [snip!] ... you against anything other than what is said. So the fact that you haven't been sick or your children is because of good genes."</blockquote>




I have a nursing degree, thanks. I'm saying that a lot of people blame everything on vaccinations and there simply just isn't proof it does half of the silly things some claim. I didn't belittle anyone, in fact, I said I respect your choice also. As flaky as it may be, it's your life and you family. I won't be responding to you or your rudeness anymore as I am above it and a difference in opinion doesn't hurt my ego as it obviously does yours.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
5th Sep '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Courtney Jayne:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Angie Mother of Boys:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... to you or your rudeness anymore as I am above it and a difference in opinion doesn't hurt my ego as it obviously does yours."</blockquote>




So I thought the god complex was reserved to those in white coats.. Obviously not.
I am not flaky, thank you.
The reason vaccination involved complications aren't more widely known is that they go highly unreported.
By the way it doesn't hurt my ego. I'm calling you out on the. I'll shit you spew. You say you respect my choices and other parents, but go on to belittle and make unwarranted critisms.
You are in the medical field. It doesn't mean you know everything. Advances in medical science and dangers, information change everyday.
Just thought I should add- nurses and doctors like yourself are the ones I hate to interact with. As you are closed minded and judgemental. Sometimes in a social field like yourself it's better to be open minded and caring to better be able to reach out and connect with your patients.
I thought I should add, I haven't always been non vacc. Our first appt is coming up when we've decided to stop altogether and my final decision was made after 2 different doctors gave me insight and thoughts regarding my children, their development and previous abnormal reactions. It's not just black and white. I would encourage you to get an unbiased opinion and facts.
Have a nice day!

Courtney Jayne Due October 1; 1 child; Audubon, Iowa 103 posts
5th Sep '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Angie Mother of Boys:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Courtney Jayne:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Angie ... [snip!] ... reactions. It's not just black and white. I would encourage you to get an unbiased opinion and facts. Have a nice day!"</blockquote>



My personal opinion has nothing to do with my profession. I advise anyone who asks of the risks, proven and suspected, and the benefits. It's not my job to convince anyone to believe what I believe. It's my job to help people with what they need help with and to save lives. Hopefully you never have to rely on "a nurse or doctor like me" to save your life or the life of a family member. You know, a nurse with an opinion that she's entitled to outside of her 9 to 5.

user banned 3 kids; Washington 15083 posts
5th Sep '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Courtney Jayne:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Angie Mother of Boys:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... save your life or the life of a family member. You know, a nurse with an opinion that she's entitled to outside of her 9 to 5."</blockquote>




Your opinion, very strong opinion at that is bound to boil over into your tone and expressions. Especially if someone were to actually tell you no.
As for the rest it's irrelevant, because life or death you will be doing your job, not busy trying to get me to sign vacc forms.

Courtney Jayne Due October 1; 1 child; Audubon, Iowa 103 posts
5th Sep '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Angie Mother of Boys:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Courtney Jayne:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Angie ... [snip!] ... for the rest it's irrelevant, because life or death you will be doing your job, not busy trying to get me to sign vacc forms."</blockquote>




That's not true at all. I've actually been involved in helping many families make the decision to not vaccinate. Reading typed words is sometimes not the best way to communicate. It doesn't always come across as intended. My original comment was not meant to be mean or to force my opinion on anyone. I actually agreed with your original response more than anyone, that ultimately the health and safety of your children is on you and nobody else. You're right that nobody forces these parents to vaccinate. I'm actually very happy that we do have a choice because I feel it is your right to say no to anything involving your health. That's the beauty of being human, your body is yours!

EskimoKiss TTC since Apr 2014; 1 child; Texas 11221 posts
5th Sep '12

Ugh i keep going back and forth on select vaxing her or not at all she's only had her 2mo shots an I think the amount of vaccines kids get at one time is ridiculous what are the reasons for vaxing infants instead of waiting til atleaat after the 1st or second birthday?