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Idlehands 2 kids; Perth, Australia 6111 posts
2nd Oct '12
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Healthy lifestyles lead to a body that feels good... which is why I have adopted the HAES principles into my life. P.S. It's not fat THUS happy... it's fat AND happy."


I never said YOU were happy because you are fat or that being fat makes you happy. However, I do tire of seeing your posts every day, so I don't read them any more.



Good for you, hopefully adopting those principles will ensure you make healthy eating choices and fit exercise into your life.

Devil's Advocate Beverly Hills, California 18191 posts
2nd Oct '12
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Healthy lifestyles lead to a body that feels good... which is why I have adopted the HAES principles into my life. P.S. It's not fat THUS happy... it's fat AND happy."


Is it a true happiness or an acceptance?



If it's something you would change, it's not true happiness.

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
2nd Oct '12
Quoting Devil's Advocate:" Is it a true happiness or an acceptance? If it's something you would change, it's not true happiness."


First one must define what true happiness is. Is there a universal definition of true happiness? Is the concept of true happiness a perception or an ultimate truth? Can one person define true happiness for another person? Is true happiness obtainable by any of us fallible human entities?



I subscribe wholly to the theory that perception defines reality. The way I see it is the way it is for me in my own personal life. This would lend to the notion that what I see as happiness would be judged as fallacy in the eyes of select others and what I see as fallacy is another human's ultimate truth.



I am happy. I am happy with my life. I am happy with who I am and what I stand for. Does that mean I always run around with rainbows flying out of my butt? Nope. I am human. I have good days and bad days just like everyone else. But I am happy. I am happy because of many things, but one giant reason is because I have learned to be. To exist in the present moment and accept what it is. I could fret and worry about why certain things in and on my body are as they are. I choose happiness.




If someone came to me today and handed me a pill that would make me the "ideal" weight, I wouldn't take it. It would negate my human experience. As a member of society, it may be tempting, but I would decline the invitation. My life, my experiences, and my body have ushered me into the person I am today. What lessons would I forfeit in the pursuit of a more acceptable body frame? If it comes to me by my actions, then so let it be.




.... I'm going to stop now because I feel that I have been a bit rambly....

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Idlehands:" I never said YOU were happy because you are fat or that being fat makes you happy. However, I do tire ... [snip!] ... Good for you, hopefully adopting those principles will ensure you make healthy eating choices and fit exercise into your life."


I'm quite sure that you are not alone in your opinion of my posts, but I persist because it is beneficial to some and my continuance has been requested by many. If it does not bring you what you need, then I see no reason why you should suffer yourself to read them.



HAES is a little more complicated than ensuring healthy eating and fitting in exercise, yet delightfully simple at the same time. I'm looking into having my practicum site initiate a HAES group for teenage girls into their program because it is something that I am passionate about.

Devil's Advocate Beverly Hills, California 18191 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" First one must define what true happiness is. Is there a universal definition of true happiness? Is ... [snip!] ... it comes to me by my actions, then so let it be. .... I'm going to stop now because I feel that I have been a bit rambly...."

So you're a martyr for fat because you feel like because you have been this way and continue to be this way through all of your life experiences, you have to hold onto that to hold onto yourself?



It's not about a body image. It's about the scientific fact of health.



So if someone offered you a "magic pill" as you stated, you would refuse it to avoid being seen in a more "acceptable" body to society? So being morbidly obese is the ultimate rebellion now I suppose.

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Devil's Advocate:" So you're a martyr for fat because you feel like because you have been this way and continue to be this ... [snip!] ... it to avoid being seen in a more "acceptable" body to society? So being morbidly obese is the ultimate rebellion now I suppose."


Yeah... because that is exactly what I said.... lol



Perhaps I have not spoken in words that were clear.



I was simply saying that I am who I am and that I have chosen to be happy in the present moment. I have chosen to focus on lifestyle rather than weight. I've actually lost weight without trying because of my lifestyle shift. I'm cool with that. I will go where my body goes.



Scientific fact? I have some of that too.

Idlehands 2 kids; Perth, Australia 6111 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" I'm quite sure that you are not alone in your opinion of my posts, but I persist because it is beneficial ... [snip!] ... practicum site initiate a HAES group for teenage girls into their program because it is something that I am passionate about."

Hence why I said, I don't read them. No need to re-iterate on your behalf. You clearly were too busy writing a response to read what I wrote properly.



Some constructive, not malicious criticism? It's not so much your message but your delivery that seems to be the issue. You write a lot of rhetoric and because of that, your message is lost.



It shouldn't be about being fat vs skinny at all, it should be about being healthy and being happy. Being happy with your self inside and out but NOT at the cost of your health. This goes for being to skinny also. I am sure you would agree with that but some how it's lost in your excessive need to be okay with being fat. (See the point I am making in that last statement? That is what I mean by your message is lost, this is what a majority of people get out of what you write).

It also comes across that you deem those who do not agree with you as lacking in intelligence or understanding of what you are trying to achieve. I get it. I just don't agree with ALL of it.



How about before you come up with your response we simply agree to disagree and let this thread be used for what it was intended. To encourage a healthy lifestyle.

Hy'ska 2 kids; Washington 50677 posts
3rd Oct '12

That body is rocking and dig the quote.



I loved when the DS's would scream at us pain is weakness leaving the body. So f**king true.



I don't get how any one can be happy opening themselves up for increased risk for stroke and heart attack.

Devil's Advocate Beverly Hills, California 18191 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Brink:" That body is rocking and dig the quote. I loved when the DS's would scream at us pain is weakness leaving ... [snip!] ... So f**king true. I don't get how any one can be happy opening themselves up for increased risk for stroke and heart attack. "


:!::idea:
I want to be the healthiest possible for my daughter.

Hy'ska 2 kids; Washington 50677 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Devil's Advocate:" :!::idea: I want to be the healthiest possible for my daughter. "


kids mimic parents. My kids are definitely motivation to lose weight and get healthier.

Devil's Advocate Beverly Hills, California 18191 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Brink:" kids mimic parents. My kids are definitely motivation to lose weight and get healthier. "


Dawn is my little health nut! She eats all the health food I do. She ate half of my salmon tonight and almost all of my green beans :x
And she does the 30DS with me! It has brought us closer together.

☮Sugar Magnolia 1 child; Indiana 18293 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Devil's Advocate:" Dawn is my little health nut! She eats all the health food I do. She ate half of my salmon tonight and ... [snip!] ... of my salmon tonight and almost all of my green beans :x And she does the 30DS with me! It has brought us closer together. "


And a plus of that is it wears her out, right? :wink::D

Devil's Advocate Beverly Hills, California 18191 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting ☮Sugar Magnolia:" And a plus of that is it wears her out, right? :wink::D"

NO! I wish :lol: It takes a LOT to wear her out. She's a little tornado. I take her for a 3-4 mile walk every day as well as the 30 DS. She's insane. My little fit baby :D



She loves it because to her, it's just playing and spending time with mommy. She does sleep better at night though. She was SO sad today because she's been sick so we couldn't walk to the park like we do every day :(

☮Sugar Magnolia 1 child; Indiana 18293 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Devil's Advocate:" NO! I wish :lol: It takes a LOT to wear her out. She's a little tornado. I take her for a 3-4 mile walk ... [snip!] ... better at night though. She was SO sad today because she's been sick so we couldn't walk to the park like we do every day :("


Poor Dawn :(



Hopefully Kenzie will kick me into better shape when she's around that age.
I hardly ever exercise, and I only eat once or twice a day :oops:

Devil's Advocate Beverly Hills, California 18191 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting ☮Sugar Magnolia:" Poor Dawn :( Hopefully Kenzie will kick me into better shape when she's around that age. I hardly ever exercise, and I only eat once or twice a day :oops:"


But you look so great :)