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Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" I may seem that way...but that is because this is not a black and white issue."


I wasn't quoting you. :?

Ella Minnow Pea Delight, Arkansas 3904 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Blair Waldorf (SuperKink):" The reason that teenagers are tried as adults for murder is because common sense tells you that if you ... [snip!] ... you. Trying a teenager as an adult for murder and giving them free reign of adult privileges are two totally different things."


I agree with this. And most murderers try to hide what they've done, so I don't consider that a childish act. It's human nature to hide our mistakes, which is further evidence she knew it was a bad thing to do.

Drunk Blair Waldorf 2 kids; Alpharetta, Georgia 19208 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Back to Noob Status:" You've contradicted yourself."


Not at all. The consequences of murder are clearly stated and widely known among the population. EVERYONE knows what happens if you murder someone.



Not every teenager knows what happens if you get drunk and then drive or don't have the money to pay bills because you spent it all on clothes. There are things that teenagers haven't learned yet, but the consequences for murder are not among the things they haven't learned.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Back to Noob Status:" I wasn't quoting you. :?"


I realize that. :roll:



But she and I take the same position on this, soooo....

Mrs. Nesbitt Due November 3 (boy); 1 child; Kansas City, Kansas 1894 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Blair Waldorf (SuperKink):" Not at all. The consequences of murder are clearly stated and widely known among the population. EVERYONE ... [snip!] ... are things that teenagers haven't learned yet, but the consequences for murder are not among the things they haven't learned."


lol. that's stupid.
if a teenager is mature enough to get liquor, and drink it, then go out and drive, they know very well what can happen.
they warn you in school and drunk driving, but not murdering your fellow peers.
they also warn you what can happen when having unprotected sex.
but does knowing those things make you an all knowing wizard?
just because you're told "hey, this is wrong, don't do it." doesn't mean you FULLY understand what is going on, or what can happen if you do perform said action.

Drunk Blair Waldorf 2 kids; Alpharetta, Georgia 19208 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Dahling:" I agree with this. And most murderers try to hide what they've done, so I don't consider that a childish ... [snip!] ... that a childish act. It's human nature to hide our mistakes, which is further evidence she knew it was a bad thing to do."


Exactly. Her hiding the evidence shows that she knew it was wrong. Not that she was being childish about it.




And no I would not expect my 6 year old to be tried as an adult. But we're discussing teenagers here. Not my 6 year old.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31296 posts
status 3rd Oct '12

No, 18 is fine. I do think they should raise the voting age to 21, though.
I don't really agree with trying KIDS as adults, either. By law, 18 is an adult, so they shouldn't be charged as such unless they meet the legal criteria as an adult.

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Blair Waldorf (SuperKink):" Not at all. The consequences of murder are clearly stated and widely known among the population. EVERYONE ... [snip!] ... are things that teenagers haven't learned yet, but the consequences for murder are not among the things they haven't learned."


Although a teenager may know that murder is wrong and that murder results in death, many do not realize the devastation it would cause to that victim's family, nor would many, in a crime of passion, realize the finality of death, that in that moment of snap judgment, they weren't thinking about the consequences, but more or less thinking about satiating that emotion that would cause them to kill.



Like a mother shaking her baby to death. She gets so worked in trying to calm the baby down as well as quench her frustrations, she forgets that shaking the baby could kill it.

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Blair Waldorf (SuperKink):" Exactly. Her hiding the evidence shows that she knew it was wrong. Not that she was being childish about ... [snip!] ... it. And no I would not expect my 6 year old to be tried as an adult. But we're discussing teenagers here. Not my 6 year old."


Either way, a teenager doesn't have the mental capacity of an adult.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31296 posts
status 3rd Oct '12
Quoting Back to Noob Status:" Although a teenager may know that murder is wrong and that murder results in death, many do not realize ... [snip!] ... so worked in trying to calm the baby down as well as quench her frustrations, she forgets that shaking the baby could kill it."


I agree 100%

Drunk Blair Waldorf 2 kids; Alpharetta, Georgia 19208 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Mrs. Nesbitt:" lol. that's stupid. if a teenager is mature enough to get liquor, and drink it, then go out and drive, ... [snip!] ... is wrong, don't do it." doesn't mean you FULLY understand what is going on, or what can happen if you do perform said action."


I just said a teenager is NOT mature enough to drink and drive because they don't understand what will happen. Do you read what I write or just skim it and then start writing your own rebuttle with no thought? Those things you just spoke of are why I don't feel it's right to lower the age of adulthood. Teenagers aren't capable of handling adult situations. But they DO know that murdering people is wrong and that you go to jail for it or get the death penalty and that when someone dies, they don't come back.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31296 posts
status 3rd Oct '12
Quoting Back to Noob Status:" Either way, a teenager doesn't have the mental capacity of an adult."


Yep, it is a proven fact. The frontal lobe reaches full development at 21-22 (females) & things really start to 'click' if you will.



Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Destinite:" Yep, it is a proven fact. The frontal lobe reaches full development at 21-22 (females) & things really start to 'click' if you will. "


Yup. I have even heard that the frontal lobe doesn't develop until as late as 25-27 years of age.



A fourteen year old is no where NEAR fully matured.

Drunk Blair Waldorf 2 kids; Alpharetta, Georgia 19208 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Back to Noob Status:" Although a teenager may know that murder is wrong and that murder results in death, many do not realize ... [snip!] ... so worked in trying to calm the baby down as well as quench her frustrations, she forgets that shaking the baby could kill it."


Okay but full grown adults don't put any more thought into killing than teenagers do. Adults do things out of passion also. And you're going to tell me that at 14 years old, you had NO idea that if you killed someone they would really be dead forever and you would go to jail for it?

Mrs. Nesbitt Due November 3 (boy); 1 child; Kansas City, Kansas 1894 posts
3rd Oct '12
Quoting Blair Waldorf (SuperKink):" I just said a teenager is NOT mature enough to drink and drive because they don't understand what will ... [snip!] ... people is wrong and that you go to jail for it or get the death penalty and that when someone dies, they don't come back."

so they're not mature enough to know what will happen when you drink and drive, but are mature enough to grasp the fact that murder is wrong?
a 14yr old is a CHILD. and should be treated as one. end of story.
they know murder is wrong, as is drinking and driving. but they are not capable of fully understand either situation unless they're A) in the situation first hand. B) are educated on said situation as they mature.