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Jays*Mama 2 kids; Michigan 5670 posts
6th Oct '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" Then it shouldn't be too hard for you to do without that little bit of help."

Well i can get it so why not? Almost every college student uses financial aid. Maybe you should go preach to entire colleges and tell everyone how they shouldnt be allowed to have financial aid and to go work and save the money to hopefully be able to go to school at some point....

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
6th Oct '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Jays*Mama:</b>" Well i can get it so why not? Almost every college student uses financial aid. Maybe you should go preach ... [snip!] ... be allowed to have financial aid and to go work and save the money to hopefully be able to go to school at some point...."</blockquote>




You do know that if the gubment quit subsidizing colleges, tuition would plummet and MORE people would be able to afford it.



Anything subsidized by the government inflates the price.

*...*...*...* 1 child; Michigan 8230 posts
6th Oct '12
Quoting Jays*Mama:" Well i can get it so why not? Almost every college student uses financial aid. Maybe you should go preach ... [snip!] ... be allowed to have financial aid and to go work and save the money to hopefully be able to go to school at some point...."


Why not? Because you don't NEED it.



Just because you can...Doesn't mean you should.

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
6th Oct '12
Quoting Jays*Mama:" Well i can get it so why not? Almost every college student uses financial aid. Maybe you should go preach ... [snip!] ... be allowed to have financial aid and to go work and save the money to hopefully be able to go to school at some point...."


Yes, that would be truly tragic if we asked people to go work and earn money to pay for the things they wanted in life.

EpicThunderCat! ; 1 child; Oregon 9400 posts
6th Oct '12
Quoting TheNuge:" yes, but a thinking liberal would see that he is for the individual and not for big government. I ... [snip!] ... would impact the lifestyles of the poor so dramtically. I wonder if they read or listen to anything beyond abortion and drugs."


You are stereotyping and it makes you sound dumb as hell. EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion, don't assume people don't do research just because you disagree with them and yes I do research myself. My thinking is that I am all for a third party. Giving something new a change regardless of whether or not I completely agree with it is fine to me. I am completely open to that! I have seen nothing but real hate spouted from conservative republican extremists...In my personal opinion. Plus, we need change. Why not try something new.



I am perfectly fine with Gary Johnson AND Jill Stein. I read facts. I am not one of those idiots that just watches the main stream media all day and calls it good. I go out of my way to research and find legitimate information.
I even look up the opposing sides. I freaking watched the speeches at the RNC for christ sake. I make sure to look at both sides of the spectrum and for ME personally, Obama is who goes with my views a lot more but I am open to others ideals and Gary Johnson sounds like a good thing especially over Romney. Romney is god awful.



Romney scares me because he doesn't even know what HE stands for:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI9yjhd8b84



Not the most professional site but explains exactly what happened at the debate if you ask me:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/04/1139926/-Romney-Won-Using-a-Debate-Technique-Called-the-Gish-Gallop



I don't like the way Romney talks, acts, flip flops, looks, talks about the American citizens, wants to cut funding to important programs. I don't like anything about the guy. He irks me to no end, especially after reading all the facts. No thank you. :] I could post a million more links but it wont prove anything to someone whom is on the opposing "team". You do what you will and I will do what I will but I am not fond of Romney at all especially since the unemployment rate is getting better. It takes time for these things to appear just as Clinton stated in his DNC speech. I am happy with America at the moment.
I would actually like to get even more liberal though. Honestly, I like the way France is for the most part. They have some flaws but I love their healthcare, schooling, healthy foods. :D

EpicThunderCat! ; 1 child; Oregon 9400 posts
6th Oct '12
Quoting C&K:" I honestly think Romney is going to win either way. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/22/university-of-colorado-pr_n_1822933.html I think a lot of people are fed up with the economy and Obama."


I think either candidate has a 50/50 chance at this point, to be honest.
I would like to be all " OMG obama will win" but when it comes down to it, they are both pretty equal at the moment nationally from what I see.
All though if you look at this, it shows Obama in the lead by a lot:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html



^ I don't know if this was updated recently though(VIA after the debate).

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
6th Oct '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting EpicThunderCat!:</b>" You are stereotyping and it makes you sound dumb as hell. EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion, ... [snip!] ... I like the way France is for the most part. They have some flaws but I love their healthcare, schooling, healthy foods. :D"</blockquote>




I have seen you post Liberal talking points like crazy!



You think the economy is Bush's fault! If you actually read anything factual, you would know that's a lie.



Nuge is one of the MOST informed women on this site. I realize she can stick up for herself but to say she's "dumb" and that she's stereotyping (meaning she is ill-informed) is baloney.

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
6th Oct '12
Quoting EpicThunderCat!:" You are stereotyping and it makes you sound dumb as hell. EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion, ... [snip!] ... I like the way France is for the most part. They have some flaws but I love their healthcare, schooling, healthy foods. :D"


You have to be one of the most entertaining people I've seen in D&D. Do you honestly think you're well informed when you go to places like DailyKos and HuffPo and post soundbite youtube videos of Romney flip flopping?



The fact that you like Obama and Johnson is the icing on the cake. They are polar opposites, but Jon Stewart probably didn't mention that when you tuned in to him for your news last night, right?

EpicThunderCat! ; 1 child; Oregon 9400 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" You have to be one of the most entertaining people I've seen in D&D. Do you honestly think you're ... [snip!] ... are polar opposites, but Jon Stewart probably didn't mention that when you tuned in to him for your news last night, right?"

A) Those were examples. I even stated it was NOT a from professional sites. I am assuming given your response you skimmed my comment without reading properly. Btw, I have a variety of websites I go to for information and I compare and contract information( I don't take information from just one source, ever). Aljazeera, Washington post, Huffington post, CNN, New York Times, TIME, CBS, ABC, Daily News, Reddit, FactCheck, local news sources here, Washington Weekly, hell the Portland Mercury lol ..ect ect ect... There are a crap ton. Oh and guess what, you guessed it I DO love the Daily Show and I f**king love Stephen Colbert to ;P They crack me up. Does that make you judge me more? If so, sounds awesome. It is human nature to judge after all, right? :D Go for it. <3



B) I explained WHY. I can have a personal preference and feel what I feel about other people voting for Gary Johnson. I like change. I do not dislike Romney simply because is REPUBLICAN. I do not like him because he is an idiot liar who talks negatively about the American people. I don't trust him one bit since he spews nothing but nonsense dribble.



D) The information stated in that video of Romney, REGARDLESS of the fact that it was posted on youtube, consisted of statements that that came from HIS mouth. The things in that video contradicted each other completely. He even contradicted himself in the debate lol. You have to be stupid not to know that. lol. Why would I vote for him? I don't even like the way he talks, looks, thinks, He is down right obnoxious and that leaked video was the worst of the worst if you ask me. I have the right not to like him ;P



C) I am done defending myself though haha because as I already stated there is no point in arguing with people form the opposing "team". You can think what you want of me, idc lol.I have never once said I am completely normal and yes, I am perfectly fine with that lol. I can be ok with people like Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, Obama whatever...Hell if I did like Romney too then who f**king gives a shit, I have the right to appreciate whoever I want and support whoever I want even if the views of those people conflict. The difference between me and many is that while I do not necessarily enjoy the things Gary Johnson is into, I feel he is at least credible and honest.He is a much better choice then Romney. :] You can like someone, support someone and not necessarily agree with their ideals. I don't see how that is so hard for people to understand or grasp lol.
:)



Oh but wait, once you register as one party you are simply NOT aloud to think outside of it ,correct? Sorry, totally forgot. My bad. :wink:

EpicThunderCat! ; 1 child; Oregon 9400 posts
7th Oct '12

Also, I really love that Obama is in the lead on my pole thus far. :D
Obama ftw.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
7th Oct '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting EpicThunderCat!:</b>" Also, I really love that Obama is in the lead on my pole thus far. :D Obama ftw."</blockquote>



*poll



http://politics.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.html?page=23888&content=81298108&pageNum=-1

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting EpicThunderCat!:" A) Those were examples. I even stated it was NOT a from professional sites. I am assuming given your ... [snip!] ... once you register as one party you are simply NOT aloud to think outside of it ,correct? Sorry, totally forgot. My bad. :wink:"


Your knowledge of politics appears to be very superficial, based on the things you post. There are youtube videos of Obama flip flopping, too, but I don't use it as a basis to hate him. I can do the research for myself and see that he's lied or flip flopped about Gitmo, outsourcing, lobbyists, big business, big banks, overspending, raising the debt ceiling, Bush's tax cuts, wars, the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, suspension of Habeus Corpus and gay marriage. But I'd bet money that you don't give a shit when Obama flip flops, right? It only matters to you when Romney does.



And I am not shocked at all that Obama is in the lead in your poll. Liberals on this site outnumber conservatives 3 to 1 (at least), and women tend to be more liberal (because they tend make irrational decisions based on their feelings instead of using their brains). You are a perfect example of someone who makes decisions with their irrational feelings - hence, the reason you can support Obama and Gary Johnson.

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting EpicThunderCat!:</b>" Also, I really love that Obama is in the ... [snip!] ... Obama ftw."</blockquote> *poll http://politics.foxnews.mobi/quickPage.html?page=23888&content=81298108&pageNum=-1"


Lol, I've just been ignoring all her spelling and grammatical errors. I don't have time to teach her about politics and give her a 4th grade English lesson.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23055 posts
8th Oct '12
Quoting EpicThunderCat!:" You are stereotyping and it makes you sound dumb as hell. EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion, ... [snip!] ... I like the way France is for the most part. They have some flaws but I love their healthcare, schooling, healthy foods. :D"


lol. you REALLY need a better understanding of the candidate.
And, you say you are "all for a third party" yet you are clueless about what Johnson is preaching. If you like the system in France and would consider voting for Obama, you cant possibly understand Johnson. It's really simple.

And, regarding you negatives on Romney, they pale in comparison to Obama's negatives. Not only is his record on things that matter abysmal, they way he talks about his non-supporters is also bad. Perhaps you have forgotten about the "bitter clingers remark," as well as PLENTY of other times he has referred to non-supporters as either enemies or "the other side" or many things that demonize non-supporters. Just look how he demonizes those that make over $200k/yr.
Again, you have a wonderful superficial understanding of the politics that will make you popular with like-mided people at a cocktail party. People that actually know something will just roll their eyes and walk away.

Jays*Mama 2 kids; Michigan 5670 posts
8th Oct '12
Quoting Kayla [:)]♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jays*Mama:</b>" So everyone is supposed to work their asses ... [snip!] ... off and save up money to pay thousands of dollars for school?"</blockquote> Why can't you just get a student loan? :?"

Personally i do get student loans. I get a really small amount of grant money and i have to take 75% of the rest out in student loans.