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7th Oct '12
Quoting [Pseudonym]:" No. My periods are like clockwork. I chart when I ovulate. According to the ultrasounds I got, she grew right on target."


Us can be wrong. Thats why some nurses say- you baby looks big- and they end up being an average size.

☼ 6 weeks! ☼ Due July 3; 2 kids; Kentucky 753 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting ☾BizzyBee♉:" :wink: Do you know how medical facts are made or discovered? A whole lot of theories. But I assume you knew that. "


When the theories are proven, then they can be considered fact to me. Facts and theories are two different entities.

☼ 6 weeks! ☼ Due July 3; 2 kids; Kentucky 753 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting ☾BizzyBee♉:" So are mine, but you can CONCEIVE or have implantation happen at varying times, pending on if sperm ... [snip!] ... she still put me in labor at 38 weeks fully developed, and measuring full term. They said my DD was probably off. It happens. "


Err, yeah at 38 weeks, they are fully developed. You can only concieve three days max after you ovulate. They don't factor in implantation when dealing with due dates. They do LMP or conception.

☼ 6 weeks! ☼ Due July 3; 2 kids; Kentucky 753 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting ☾BizzyBee♉:" Well, you really can't PROVE theory about how labor starts, since there's no way to prove it without ... [snip!] ... to prove it without a shadow of a doubt without possibly killing the mother or child, so you're gonna be waiting a long time. "


Then, no one knows how labor starts. They believe, they think, they theorize. Nobody knows. For all you know, mom could trigger labor. Her body is designed to grow a child for a set amount of time. :?: That's my theory.

☼ 6 weeks! ☼ Due July 3; 2 kids; Kentucky 753 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting ☾BizzyBee♉:" And cycles can vary from month to month. At birth, they have ways of telling if they're a full 40 weeker ... [snip!] ... and implantation can take a week or so to happen sometimes. You can implant a week after you ovulate, that's not far fetched."


Oh, no. Sperm can live three to four days inside you. Researched this quite extensively when I was trying to concieve my first...
They probably did tests to see if she was a full 37 weeker. Hearing, vision, listening to lungs, heartbeat, bowels, make sure all systems are functioning normally. Doctor's could care less if it's at least a 40 weeker, just as long as it's a 37 weeker.

☼ 6 weeks! ☼ Due July 3; 2 kids; Kentucky 753 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting ☾BizzyBee♉:" Your theory would make no sense, since some moms have preemies and have full term kids. No one has ... [snip!] ... definite proof, but a lot of research has shown that the baby is the main cause in a normal labor process for starting labor. "


Factors in each pregnancy could influence it's outcome. Maybe mom smoked with the preemie baby and not with the full term one. There are too many variables and obstretics is not an exact science by any means.

☼ 6 weeks! ☼ Due July 3; 2 kids; Kentucky 753 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting ☾BizzyBee♉:" http://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/guide/sperm-and-semen-faq - 5 days http://www.ju ... [snip!] ... - 5 days So yeah, I've heard 7, and in some cases that may happen, but it sure as hell isn't generally 3-4. "


I'm not sure justmommies is a credible site. All the reputable ones agree with me for the most part...Sperm lifespan notwithstanding, this adds an extra 5 days to the length of pregnancy. Not altogether significant.

☼ 6 weeks! ☼ Due July 3; 2 kids; Kentucky 753 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting ☾BizzyBee♉:" Exactly. It's not. There's a ton of theories, but nothing can be proven without a shadow of a doubt. ... [snip!] ... theories on how it works. So WHY make it an exact science and make it into a medical thing by inducing when it's not necessary?"


I don't know, my OB didn't treat it that way. And it kind of is a medical thing. But...yeah, I agree if you don't need an induction, just wait it out. My OB tended to steet clear of drastic induction techniques, for the most part. He'd break ladies' water and let labor happen naturally instead of hooking you up to Pitocin straightaway...
I just got my membranes stipped and that was enough to jumpstart labor for me...

☼ 6 weeks! ☼ Due July 3; 2 kids; Kentucky 753 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting ☾BizzyBee♉:" Which is why I always tell people they should watch the Business of Being Born, or Pregnant in America. ... [snip!] ... Both are really good about going behind the scenes in hospitals and show you how many of these places actually think and work. "


I'll have to check it out...Though it won't be of much use to me since I'm done having kids. Boo! But, still...Could be interesting... :)

Cynthia Stevenson Due October 18; 2 kids; Elko, Nevada 184 posts
7th Oct '12

Well this has definetly given me a different look at induction and well every other medical thing out there lol.

Cynthia Stevenson Due October 18; 2 kids; Elko, Nevada 184 posts
7th Oct '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting [Pseudonym]:</b>" I don't know, my OB didn't treat it that way. And it kind of is a medical thing. But...yeah, I agree ... [snip!] ... of hooking you up to Pitocin straightaway... I just got my membranes stipped and that was enough to jumpstart labor for me..."</blockquote>




Ok so I have a question about the membrane stripping thing... What exactly do they do with that procedure?

☼ 6 weeks! ☼ Due July 3; 2 kids; Kentucky 753 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting ☾BizzyBee♉:" It was an eye opener. They had a very set labor schedule, and they started trying to push pitocin by ... [snip!] ... to push pitocin by a certain time, JUST to empty a bed. Gotta remember, an empty bed can be filled by a new patient to charge. "


:shock:
I noticed that! When I was delivering my youngest, okay, I had my epi, was dilated to an 8 and they wanted to give me Pitocin to speed things up! It didn't occur to me then...Damn.

☼ 6 weeks! ☼ Due July 3; 2 kids; Kentucky 753 posts
7th Oct '12
Quoting Cynthia Stevenson:" <blockquote><b>Quoting [Pseudonym]:</b>" I don't know, my OB didn't treat it that ... [snip!] ... Ok so I have a question about the membrane stripping thing... What exactly do they do with that procedure?"


It was at an internal exam at my OB's office and while the nurse was in there, lol, she stretched my cervix out by moving her fingers pretty aggressively in circles. It's intense. I had a BH both times I've had it done.

Cynthia Stevenson Due October 18; 2 kids; Elko, Nevada 184 posts
7th Oct '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting [Pseudonym]:</b>" It was at an internal exam at my OB's office and while the nurse was in there, lol, she stretched my ... [snip!] ... my cervix out by moving her fingers pretty aggressively in circles. It's intense. I had a BH both times I've had it done. "</blockquote>




So it's painful?

Cynthia Stevenson Due October 18; 2 kids; Elko, Nevada 184 posts
7th Oct '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting [Pseudonym]:</b>" It was at an internal exam at my OB's office and while the nurse was in there, lol, she stretched my ... [snip!] ... my cervix out by moving her fingers pretty aggressively in circles. It's intense. I had a BH both times I've had it done. "</blockquote>




And what's BH?