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_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
4th Nov '12
Quoting Dr. Paradigm Shift:" The "no atheists in foxholes" is kind of silly to me. And actually super condescending. It reeks of ... [snip!] ... know what I do and don't believe in. I quoted you because you brought up the phrase- this wasn't directed at you, by the way."


I said it wasn't always true. And I think the phrase rarely goes to true belief. However, at wits end, people are usually willing to give almost anything a shot. At times of extreme stress people both lose faith and find faith. It's a time when what you're doing may not work so you try somethign else. Sending up a "please God" can't hurt an Atheist and when you're out of options it's something people try.



I don't think it's condescending at all. I think it's human nature. Most smart people will admit that we don't know everything. I may have faith, or lack of faith, but at the end of the day I lack all the answers. So when stress is high we often had to admit to not knowing. This can mean losing faith in those who believe, or even giving a prayer a chance in people who don't.



That's how I see the quote at least.

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
4th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" I said it wasn't always true. And I think the phrase rarely goes to true belief. However, at wits end, ... [snip!] ... losing faith in those who believe, or even giving a prayer a chance in people who don't. That's how I see the quote at least."</blockquote>




It just rubs me the wrong way, and probably because I've dealt with overly religious people in my life throwing at me in a condescending way since childhood.




So naturally, that how ill always see it.




It was always difficult for me to not respond with "then I suppose you'll be praying to about 3000 different gods in times of trouble just in case."



But, you know, you just don't bust that out on your Grandma.

The Bear and The Bird 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42577 posts
4th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mel & a girl named Pey:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ag iompar clainne (16w):</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... this I'm so scared. I don't know if a lot of atheist actually do this though. I honestly don't personally know any atheists."</blockquote>




I've done it. It's just a like...idk how to describe it. Just a desperate release of negative emotion. I wasn't literally praying to God and I didn't expect or hope to be heard or answered

Pey and Trista's mommy 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Houston, Texas 42502 posts
4th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ag iompar clainne (16w):</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mel & a girl named Pey:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... a desperate release of negative emotion. I wasn't literally praying to God and I didn't expect or hope to be heard or answered"</blockquote>




I get it...worries make you just do things without thinking even if it didn't make sense.