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_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
4th Nov '12
Quoting Dr. Paradigm Shift:" The "no atheists in foxholes" is kind of silly to me. And actually super condescending. It reeks of ... [snip!] ... know what I do and don't believe in. I quoted you because you brought up the phrase- this wasn't directed at you, by the way."


I said it wasn't always true. And I think the phrase rarely goes to true belief. However, at wits end, people are usually willing to give almost anything a shot. At times of extreme stress people both lose faith and find faith. It's a time when what you're doing may not work so you try somethign else. Sending up a "please God" can't hurt an Atheist and when you're out of options it's something people try.



I don't think it's condescending at all. I think it's human nature. Most smart people will admit that we don't know everything. I may have faith, or lack of faith, but at the end of the day I lack all the answers. So when stress is high we often had to admit to not knowing. This can mean losing faith in those who believe, or even giving a prayer a chance in people who don't.



That's how I see the quote at least.

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
4th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" I said it wasn't always true. And I think the phrase rarely goes to true belief. However, at wits end, ... [snip!] ... losing faith in those who believe, or even giving a prayer a chance in people who don't. That's how I see the quote at least."</blockquote>




It just rubs me the wrong way, and probably because I've dealt with overly religious people in my life throwing at me in a condescending way since childhood.




So naturally, that how ill always see it.




It was always difficult for me to not respond with "then I suppose you'll be praying to about 3000 different gods in times of trouble just in case."



But, you know, you just don't bust that out on your Grandma.

Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42788 posts
4th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mel & a girl named Pey:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ag iompar clainne (16w):</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... this I'm so scared. I don't know if a lot of atheist actually do this though. I honestly don't personally know any atheists."</blockquote>




I've done it. It's just a like...idk how to describe it. Just a desperate release of negative emotion. I wasn't literally praying to God and I didn't expect or hope to be heard or answered

Pey and Trista's mommy Due January 5; 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Houston, Texas 42503 posts
4th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ag iompar clainne (16w):</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mel & a girl named Pey:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... a desperate release of negative emotion. I wasn't literally praying to God and I didn't expect or hope to be heard or answered"</blockquote>




I get it...worries make you just do things without thinking even if it didn't make sense.