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Cast Your Vote:

    • Yes, it's still a democracy -- Votes: 3
    • No, it's not. -- Votes: 33
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iLL-Legal Unicorn Alien 3 kids; New York, TX, United States 37137 posts
4th Nov '12

So if in the end one vote wouldn't make the difference...



Why is the country so wrapped up in the voting process...why is so much money spent on it (from the campaigns and the voting process itself)...



Is it just to give the people the "feel" that they get a say?



I'm genuinely curious. I'm not a citizen but I'm the process of becoming one. And during times like this (election time) I always hear how it's so important to choose the leader of the US, and how the people have the power so on and so forth. How it's your civic duty to vote....

iLL-Legal Unicorn Alien 3 kids; New York, TX, United States 37137 posts
4th Nov '12
Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:" I wouldn't. The president has less power than it seems. It's congress that decides everything."

oh no :lol: I meant the OP itself...like it's focusing more on the election of the president. Sorry, I should have been more specific. lol

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
4th Nov '12
Quoting iLL-Legal Alien:" So if in the end one vote wouldn't make the difference... Why is the country so wrapped up in the voting ... [snip!] ... to choose the leader of the US, and how the people have the power so on and so forth. How it's your civic duty to vote...."


Because if people think they're choosing a leader, they won't revolt when the leader that "they chose" takes away their rights and spends them into a depression.

taking a look at life Palm beach gardens, FL, United States 49130 posts
4th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting iLL-Legal Alien:</b>" So if in the end one vote wouldn't make the difference... Why is the country so wrapped up in the voting ... [snip!] ... to choose the leader of the US, and how the people have the power so on and so forth. How it's your civic duty to vote...."</blockquote>




Because the electoral collages should vote in the way the people vote but they don't....

Flower♥Child Litchfield, NY, United States 69978 posts
4th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♡Sarah♡ + 2:</b>" Nope, considering they dont have to honor what the people voted."</blockquote>



This. The people's vote isn't what's counted.

♀NoBoysAllowed 19 kids; San Diego, California 51862 posts
4th Nov '12
Quoting iLL-Legal Alien:" So if in the end one vote wouldn't make the difference... Why is the country so wrapped up in the voting ... [snip!] ... to choose the leader of the US, and how the people have the power so on and so forth. How it's your civic duty to vote...."


I don't think anyone really knows for sure. The fact that the electoral college has the ability to choose whomever they want, despite how the majority in their district vote is pretty suspicious to me. Having an electoral college at all seems unnecessary, if they were going to go off of the public's vote.

♀NoBoysAllowed 19 kids; San Diego, California 51862 posts
4th Nov '12
Quoting iLL-Legal Alien:" oh no :lol: I meant the OP itself...like it's focusing more on the election of the president. Sorry, I should have been more specific. lol"


Oh :lol:

taking a look at life Palm beach gardens, FL, United States 49130 posts
4th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" I don't think anyone really knows for sure. The fact that the electoral college has the ability to choose ... [snip!] ... suspicious to me. Having an electoral college at all seems unnecessary, if they were going to go off of the public's vote."</blockquote>




I think having the electoral collage is dumb and its something that we need to get rid of but that won't happen

♀NoBoysAllowed 19 kids; San Diego, California 51862 posts
4th Nov '12
Quoting Click Me Click Me!!!:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" I don't think anyone really knows ... [snip!] ... I think having the electoral collage is dumb and its something that we need to get rid of but that won't happen"


It could, but it would cause a revolution, I'm sure. IMO that's exactly what needs to happen.

taking a look at life Palm beach gardens, FL, United States 49130 posts
4th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:</b>" It could, but it would cause a revolution, I'm sure. IMO that's exactly what needs to happen."</blockquote>




It needs to go back to were we the people choose not the electoral collage. It's like we are not heard anymore.

user banned California 8675 posts
5th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting iLL-Legal Alien:</b>" So if in the end one vote wouldn't make the difference... Why is the country so wrapped up in the voting ... [snip!] ... to choose the leader of the US, and how the people have the power so on and so forth. How it's your civic duty to vote...."</blockquote>



Pretty much is all a gimmick. They can make you think what they want.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
5th Nov '12

The electoral college works. It's not perfect but it's pretty darn good.
It ensures a voice for those who would have none, otherwise.



A straight democracy can easily lead to mob rule.



Think about this: If we could have as many parties and choices as everyone says that they want, we would have to include EVERYONE. Jill Stein, Ron Paul, Gary Johnson....all of them, would be on the ballot. What good would come from splitting the vote 10 ways? ONLY ONE person can win the presidency. Someone would win and the person that did win would do so with only a very small percentage of the vote.



I don't want only 11% of the population choosing a president for me.

taking a look at life Palm beach gardens, FL, United States 49130 posts
5th Nov '12
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" The electoral college works. It's not perfect but it's pretty darn good. It ensures a voice for those ... [snip!] ... do so with only a very small percentage of the vote. I don't want only 11% of the population choosing a president for me."



thats the way it should be because the can say OH even tho obama won in the part of florida im voting for romeny and then ur still SOL. I'd rather everyones vote COUNT then NOT.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
5th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Click Me Click Me!!!:</b>" thats the way it should be because the can say OH even tho obama won in the part of florida im voting for romeny and then ur still SOL. I'd rather everyones vote COUNT then NOT."</blockquote>




Your vote still counts. Even moreso in the primary election. We, the American public, get to vote twice.



So, the way it "should be" is to allow votes to be split in 10 ways and to allow a very small percentage of voters to dictate the fate of the other 90%?



How is that better than what we have now?

iLL-Legal Unicorn Alien 3 kids; New York, TX, United States 37137 posts
5th Nov '12
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" The electoral college works. It's not perfect but it's pretty darn good. It ensures a voice for those ... [snip!] ... do so with only a very small percentage of the vote. I don't want only 11% of the population choosing a president for me."


But from has been said in this thread, and if I'm understanding correctly...with the Electoral College in place, doesn't that mean that an even smaller percentage of people get to choose the president? There's 538 people in the electoral collage. so that's 538 people choosing for the whole US?