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Blank™ Beverly Hills, CA, United States 5264 posts
6th Nov '12

Perhaps this website will help. I use it when I have questions about God and the bible. My pastor actually recommended it to me.



http://www.gotquestions.org/God-allow-evil.html

DownWithMorons 1 child; Tauranga, New Zealand 5516 posts
6th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Twin's Mommy:</b>" I came in here because I thought this was going to be about Questions For Christmas. My reading skills ... [snip!] ... I went to SS that said that God knew Adam & Eve were going to betray him. That's why he sent Jesus to die on the cross."</blockquote>



Haha don't worry, I read Christmas as well lol

Lucid Dreamer Florida 3829 posts
6th Nov '12

I actually believe it is is not as traditionally thought. I believe that all of us are pieces of God and are perfect at the core of are being but in order to truely know ourselves as such we have to experience the opposite and the only the way for this this to happen the material worlds were created in order that we can have all kinds of expewriences both positive and negative or a duel reality. I also believe we live many lifetimes both as men and women. While we are here we are like actors in a movie but we forget this as we enter the world. As for God I believe God is not like what we are tradionally taught and loves all of creation without conditions.

user banned Due November 26; 1 child; Parkersburg, West Virginia 9548 posts
6th Nov '12
Quoting Lucid Dreamer:" I actually believe it is is not as traditionally thought. I believe that all of us are pieces of God ... [snip!] ... the world. As for God I believe God is not like what we are tradionally taught and loves all of creation without conditions."


yes i believe in all of this

user banned 33 kids; Blytheville, Arkansas 7534 posts
7th Nov '12
Quoting Mara:" pathologically obsessed with getting adoration from his creation. that's what i get from the OT. "


I couldn't have said it better.

user banned 33 kids; Blytheville, Arkansas 7534 posts
7th Nov '12
Quoting Sophie's dairy cow:" im not a christian but this is what i believe. why children are born sick. why a child lives for 2 hours ... [snip!] ... is the devil. to me god is energy. we are all connected to each other through light. the devil is darkness or humans fallacy. "


That is a nice idea, but it doesn't tie in with true Christian doctrine. Thank you for sharing, though.

user banned 33 kids; Blytheville, Arkansas 7534 posts
7th Nov '12
Quoting Mommeee
user banned 33 kids; Blytheville, Arkansas 7534 posts
7th Nov '12
Quoting Lucid Dreamer:" I actually believe it is is not as traditionally thought. I believe that all of us are pieces of God ... [snip!] ... the world. As for God I believe God is not like what we are tradionally taught and loves all of creation without conditions."


That's very interesting, but unless it is supported with Biblical information, it isn't an answer to any of my questions. It's actually a dismissal of the questions, which makes your point pretty much irrelevant. Thank you for sharing, though.

user banned 33 kids; Blytheville, Arkansas 7534 posts
7th Nov '12
Quoting Mommeee
~*~Modern*Day*Delilah~*~ 17 kids; Connecticut 15826 posts
7th Nov '12

The way I've always viewed it is this- God is like a parent. When you get pregnant, you KNOW damn well you will be releasing your child into a world full of hate, greed, evil, cruelty, lies, etc. You know your child will suffer, you know they will cry, be sad, get hurt- But do you still go through with the pregnancy and carry the child to term? Yes. You know the reality, but you make the best of it and do the best you can. Does it make you an evil horrible person for bringing a child into this disgusting world? No, it doesn't. I view God in this way- he knew we would suffer, but he promised to be there for us (we may not always agree with how he is there for us, but he IS there)-



Same way we are with our children...You send your child off to school for the first time- out of your care, and you give him or her to the school and you know damn well that one day your child will come home in tears because some other jerk of a kid picked on him, So you just wipe his tears away, and send him back to school the next day with renewed confidence. God is the same way. At least, that's how I've always viewed him :) Just my opinion though.

~*~Modern*Day*Delilah~*~ 17 kids; Connecticut 15826 posts
7th Nov '12
Quoting Chroma Hex [+1]:" The question isn't "Why does God allow bad things to happen?" . That is a tired argument and everyone ... [snip!] ... are afraid of a world without him or the punishment he'll give if he doesn't receive that worship, it's still fear-based. "


The way it was always taught to me was that God could have had a race of humans who worshiped him no questions asked, but he didn't want that, he wanted "children" who would CHOOSE to worship him and love him, granted, I don't 100% understand that (seeing as how you get punished if your choice is NOT to love him), but that's the way I was always taught....I've been a christian my whole life and I still question basic things.

user banned 33 kids; Blytheville, Arkansas 7534 posts
7th Nov '12
Quoting ~*~Modern*Day*Delilah~*~:" The way I've always viewed it is this- God is like a parent. When you get pregnant, you KNOW damn well ... [snip!] ... next day with renewed confidence. God is the same way. At least, that's how I've always viewed him :) Just my opinion though. "


There is a crucial difference between the average parent and God... divine powers.



Let me go along with your analogy.



Your child gets cancer (knock on wood, my heart goes out to anyone that experiences this). You do everything in your power to make them comfortable and get them healthy, but let's say that ultimately it all fails and you lose them.



Now let's say you had the powers that God has, the power to perform miracles.



Could you sit there and watch your child die if you yourself could snap your fingers and make them well?



I don't want to hear about God's plan and about the way he wants things...could YOU watch your child suffer, wither and die, if you had the power to stop it?

Lucid Dreamer Florida 3829 posts
7th Nov '12
Quoting Chroma Hex [+1]:" That's very interesting, but unless it is supported with Biblical information, it isn't an answer to ... [snip!] ... It's actually a dismissal of the questions, which makes your point pretty much irrelevant. Thank you for sharing, though. "

I don't think anyone can really give you the answers based on biblical information. Basically what I posted is based on what some people experience either through a spiritual experience or near death experience. There is nothing in writing that can give the whole picture of reality. I was raised with traditional Christian beliefs but found it did not work for me nor did some of it make sense. Mainly the belief that an all loving God would create a Hell meant to cause eternal unimaginable suffering forever.

user banned 33 kids; Blytheville, Arkansas 7534 posts
7th Nov '12
Quoting Lucid Dreamer:" I don't think anyone can really give you the answers based on biblical information. Basically what I ... [snip!] ... make sense. Mainly the belief that an all loving God would create a Hell meant to cause eternal unimaginable suffering forever."


They may not make sense, but they are beliefs commonly held by people that practice different Christian doctrines. There's nothing wrong with you having your own personal view, but that has nothing to do with the questions I posted, nor did you address them.

Jackson 3 + 2 Due December 17 (twins); 1 child; Florida 464 posts
8th Nov '12
Quoting Chroma Hex [+1]:" That answers everything I wanted from a Christian standpoint, but for some reason I'm still not satisfied... ... [snip!] ... him. That's not asking for love, although I do know that Christians do adore their god...that is only asking for obedience. "


I am no expert and this may sound really radical I don't know so take it for what it is but I thought I would share some of God's word directly from the bible. He does give Adam and Eve warning about eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil in Genisis 2:17. He said to them you may eat from any tree in the garden of eden except the tree of knowledge of good and evil and he warns them that if they do they will surely die. When this was done it started was is called the fall of mankind. Sin entered the world and now we have this battle of what we know based on our personal life experiences and what God's plan is. We either choose to read his word, grow our relationship, and listen to the holy spirit or we don't. Those are our choices which every single person struggles with that is why there is no way sin will ever go away and people will always suffer. God does not expect us to be perfect he knows we cannot be perfect and that is why he sent his son Jesus to die on the cross.