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UhmAmber 1 child; Texas 2415 posts
8th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting lovely_rosa:</b>" i know this guy who had really bad nerve damage due to being in the military and he had 2 surgeries that ... [snip!] ... do nothing but get people hooked on it and sometimes doesn't even help for what they are going through(Mentally and physically)"</blockquote>




No, I think it's perfectly fine for OCCASIONAL recreational use, but there are a lot of people out there that can't limit themselves to that. It's a lot easier for most people to smoke and go about their day than to get drunk and do the same, so I feel people would be using it more than they should. I use to smoke on my way to work. Then on my way home from work. Sometimes I'd go to a friend's house instead and we'd smoke some more. It was a problem, but it was somewhat easier to function after smoking than drinking, so I think it would be a lot easier for people to abuse weed than they do any other drug or alcohol. The thing is, is that it does impair your judgement, and slow your reactions. I can't stand when SO smokes and tries to have a conversation with me because it's impossible to have an intelligent conversation with him. Thankfully he cut back A LOT and only smoked before bed to help him sleep, now he says he's quitting.



Though, it's a tough place for me because I think it would really help the economy for it to be legal and taxed everywhere.

Ravey Candyass 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Boston, Massachusetts 103325 posts
status 8th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Amber :]:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting lovely_rosa:</b>" i know this guy who had really bad nerve damage ... [snip!] ... Though, it's a tough place for me because I think it would really help the economy for it to be legal and taxed everywhere."</blockquote>




Ugh my cousin smokes all day, and like 3 joints at a time. That's wayyy too much. I'm all for smoking but when it controls you like that, there's a problem. I do enjoy smoking to get high occasionally, but that's usually only once a week

UhmAmber 1 child; Texas 2415 posts
8th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ravey Candyass:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Amber :]:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting lovely_rosa:</b>" ... [snip!] ... it controls you like that, there's a problem. I do enjoy smoking to get high occasionally, but that's usually only once a week"</blockquote>




Yes! That's the point that I think it's a problem, once a week or so is perfectly fine by me. I just think when someone has a need to get high just to get high every day, like I admittedly was doing before, is the point that the person needs to take control of their lives and find something more productive to do with their lives. I feel like they're trying to escape something in the real world by just getting high all the time.

Ravey Candyass 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Boston, Massachusetts 103325 posts
status 8th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Amber :]:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ravey Candyass:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Amber ... [snip!] ... to do with their lives. I feel like they're trying to escape something in the real world by just getting high all the time."</blockquote>




See I know for me, even if it was passed her recreationally, my use age wouldn't change. But I know a few who would use that as an excuse. I really don't get it. They go to work high. I cant do that. Why would I do that?

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
8th Nov '12
Quoting Ravey Candyass:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Amber :]:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ravey Candyass:</b>" ... [snip!] ... I know a few who would use that as an excuse. I really don't get it. They go to work high. I cant do that. Why would I do that?"


Even if it were legalized here, I wouldn't smoke. I've tried it and it makes me sick, literally.

Now, legalize all drugs? I'd go for that. I use ecstasy about once every year or so. I actually see that being legalized for medicinal use sometime in the next decade or so because the military is now testing it on soldiers with PTSD with good results.

Ravey Candyass 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Boston, Massachusetts 103325 posts
status 8th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" Even if it were legalized here, I wouldn't smoke. I've tried it and it makes me sick, literally. ... [snip!] ... medicinal use sometime in the next decade or so because the military is now testing it on soldiers with PTSD with good results."</blockquote>




How in the world would that help ptsd? I'm genuinely curious, because I be been diagnosed with it

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
8th Nov '12
Quoting Ravey Candyass:" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" Even if it were legalized here, I wouldn't smoke. ... [snip!] ... How in the world would that help ptsd? I'm genuinely curious, because I be been diagnosed with it"


They have had studies that show that instead of seveal appointments to open up and realize your experiences, it takes one. MDMA helps you connect with what has happened and help you talk about it.



http://mdmaptsd.org/



http://mdma.net/ecstasy/trials.html

lovely_rosa Jacksonville, Florida 182 posts
8th Nov '12
Quoting Amber :]:" <blockquote><b>Quoting lovely_rosa:</b>" i know this guy who had really bad nerve damage ... [snip!] ... Though, it's a tough place for me because I think it would really help the economy for it to be legal and taxed everywhere."

I've smoke weed and i don't like how i am on it because i too have very dumb conversations...I will talk about one thing and just forget what i was talking about. I guess everyone is different but i do like it for when i'm by myself it makes me so calm

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5359 posts
8th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ravey Candyass:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" Even if it were legalized here, I wouldn't smoke. ... [snip!] ... How in the world would that help ptsd? I'm genuinely curious, because I be been diagnosed with it"</blockquote>




There are several studies that have been done in the UK showing astonishing results in PTSD with the use of pure Ecstasy, MDMA. In fact one of the studies was shown on TV over 2 nights about a month ago with a live debate going on at the same time showing the therapeutic use of MDMA. People who had been trying to deal with it for years unsuccessfully using all different avenues suddenly after just one session were showing major breakthroughs with it and after 2 or 3 therapy sessions with the use of MDMA were basically "cured".

Gone 12345.... 2 kids; Houston, Texas 16000 posts
8th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting MommyingWithGrace:</b>" I dont believe cigarettes, alcohol, beer, drugs, weed, and certain prescription drugs should even be legal. They serve no purpose whatsoever."</blockquote>




All of my best ideas involved alcohol in some form lol..and they do have proposed..medical..emotional or even just recreational..some people have fun and that's a good enough reason to do anything..if safe and responsible

UhmAmber 1 child; Texas 2415 posts
8th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" Even if it were legalized here, I wouldn't smoke. I've tried it and it makes me sick, literally. ... [snip!] ... medicinal use sometime in the next decade or so because the military is now testing it on soldiers with PTSD with good results."</blockquote>




Yeah, we were actually ironically looking into moving to either CO or WA before all of this even started, and even if we do move there I wouldn't smoke. I'm over it, and I know that even though I don't like the way I am socially when I smoke, once I start I keep doing it for f**k knows why lol I guess I have an addictive personality.



But that's extremely interesting about MDMA, bc I know it does open you up. Now, that is a drug that I don't actually mind people doing once or twice a year as you said you do. MDMA makes you really take in a lot of your surroundings and makes you more aware of just life. Same with mushrooms, too, and those are natural which is just another plus in my book. ;)
But again, these substances need to be taken seriously by the people using them, and again, there are people out there that just don't have the right amount of self control to limit their use. :/

Sweet Little Lies TTC since Dec 2013; 2 kids; Deception, WI, United States 3594 posts
8th Nov '12

I don't smoke at all and I am all for it! I hope Wisconsin does the same! And maybe Missouri (although that is doubtful)

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
9th Nov '12

Don't you run the risk of developing depression, sometimes severe, from the use of MDMA?

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
9th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fat-and-Happy:</b>" Don't you run the risk of developing depression, sometimes severe, from the use of MDMA?"</blockquote>




Chronic daily use, but you run the risk of suicidal thoughts and depression with most of the anti depression meds out there. Abilify is notorious for it.

Gone 12345.... 2 kids; Houston, Texas 16000 posts
9th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fat-and-Happy:</b>" Don't you run the risk of developing depression, ... [snip!] ... run the risk of suicidal thoughts and depression with most of the anti depression meds out there. Abilify is notorious for it."</blockquote>




Abilify is an anti psychotic..possible side effects are super long and super scary...