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Breastfeeding baby - yay or nay Emmy's Mom 1 child; Indiana 1831 posts
9th Nov '12

http://wrtv.m0bl.net/w/news-weird/story/77822287/



Sorry I'm on my phone so I can't link. Just wanted to hear people's opinions on this. Personally I think it's no different that a baby you can bottle feed.

Emmy's Mom 1 child; Indiana 1831 posts
9th Nov '12

Breastfeeding doll sparks controversy
TheIndyChannel.com Staff
Nov 9, 2012 6:50 a.m.

A breastfeeding doll whose suckling sounds are prompted by sensors sewn into a halter top at the nipples of little girls that caught some flak after hitting the U.S. market.



"I just want the kids to be kids," Bill O'Reilly said on his Fox News show when he learned of the Breast Milk Baby. "And this kind of stuff. We don't need this."



What, exactly, people don't need is unclear to Dennis Lewis, the U.S. representative for Berjuan Toys, a family-owned, 40-year-old doll maker in Spain that can't get the dolls onto mainstream shelves more than a year after introducing the line in this country -- and blowing O'Reilly and others' minds.



"We've had a lot of support from lots of breastfeeding organizations, lots of mothers, lots of educators," said Lewis, in Orlando, Fla. "There also has been a lot of blowback from people who maybe haven't thought to think about really why the doll is there and what its purpose is. Usually they are people that either have problems with breastfeeding in general, or they see it as something sexual."



The dolls, eight in all with a variety of skin tones and facial features, look like many others, until children don the little top with petal appliques at the nipples. That's where the sensors are located, setting off the suckling noise when the doll's mouth makes contact. It also burps and cries, but those sounds don't require contact at the breast.



Little Savannah and Tony, Cameron and Jessica, Lilyang and Jeremiah ain't cheap at $89 a pop. Lewis, after unsuccessfully peddling them to retailers large and small, now has them listed at half price on their website in time for the holidays this year.



"With retailers it's been hard, to be perfectly honest, but not so much because they've been against the products," he said. "It's more they've been very wary of the controversy. It's a product that you either love it or you hate it."



Critics cite an unspecified yuck factor, or say it's too mature for children. But Stevanne Auerbach loves it. The child development expert in San Francisco, also known as Dr. Toy, evaluates dolls and other toys for consumers, lending her official approval to Breast Milk Baby.



"We felt that it had merit in dealing with new babies for the older child," she said, "and for the curiosity that children have in this area. Breastfeeding in Europe is acceptable and the doll has been successful there. We wanted to open up the opportunity."



Sally Wendkos Olds, who wrote "The Complete Book of Breastfeeding," also doesn't understand the problem.



"I think it's a very cute toy," she said. "I think it's just crazy what Bill O'Reilly was saying that it's sexualizing little girls. The whole point is that so many people in our society persist in sexualizing breastfeeding, where in so many other countries around the world they don't think anything of it."



Olds called Americans "prudish in many ways," adding the doll offers: "bodily awareness. It's realizing that this is OK."



Lewis blames lack of U.S. sales -- just under 5,000 dolls sold in the last year -- solely on phobia about breastfeeding, something widely considered the healthiest way to feed a baby.



"There's no doubt about that," he said. "The whole idea is that there's still some taboos here. They're difficult to justify and difficult to explain but they're out there. You mention breast and people automatically start thinking Janet Jackson or wardrobe malfunctions and all sorts of things that have absolutely nothing to do with breastfeeding."



Lewis considers Breast Milk Baby "very much less sexualized" than Barbie dolls or the sassy Bratz pack.



Olds, who lives in New York City, agreed, though she thinks the doll's full retail price is too high. "That's my only objection to it. It's a lot of money, but people spend a lot of money on their children in all sorts of ways."



Haven't little girls been mimicking the act of breastfeeding with their baby dolls for centuries without benefit of accoutrement?



"Why do we need anything with bells and whistles? Why did we need a Betsy Wetsy? Children like toys that do things," Olds said, invoking one of the first drink and wet dolls created back in 1935. "So this doll makes noises. She burps, she cries, she sucks very noisily. Big deal."



Lincoln Hoppe, a Los Angeles actor and father of five -- all breastfed -- said a young child who becomes a big sibling and sees mom nursing might enjoy the doll just fine. "After all, they're going to imitate mom anyway using whatever doll they've already got," he said.



But how about on playdates or just out and about in public?



"It's already hard to tell a child they can't take 'that' toy with them to their sibling's soccer game." he said. "There may be a time and place for this doll, but I find the idea kind of creepy."



AP Modified 2012

Arks Mama! ಠ_ಠ 1 child; Utah 2401 posts
9th Nov '12
Quoting Emmy's Mom:" http://wrtv.m0bl.net/w/news-weird/story/77822287/ Sorry I'm on my phone so I can't link. Just wanted ... [snip!] ... link. Just wanted to hear people's opinions on this. Personally I think it's no different than a baby you can bottle feed."


I feel the same way.

Andi+Andy=Marley+1 2 kids; Fredericksburg, Virginia 4564 posts
9th Nov '12

Bill O'reilly can suck my dick. Douchebag is an idiot

SavageDarling 3 kids; Webster, Massachusetts 10381 posts
9th Nov '12

I think it's cute and I really see nothing wrong with it other than how expensive it is. But my daughter, 22 months, already pretends to breastfeed her baby dolls. Actually so does my son, 6. Lol

Fertile Mertile + D & C 2 kids; Sumter, SC, United States 37083 posts
9th Nov '12

I see nothing wrong with it, my son tries to breastfeed his stuffed animals sometimes. If the parent wants to buy it, they can. If not, don't buy it.

L&J ♥ +1 Due August 29 (boy); 2 kids; New Jersey 7430 posts
9th Nov '12

I see no problem in it. And for the people who said it was creepy... They're fuckin creepy.

Squid Kid Unavailable, NA, United States 32249 posts
9th Nov '12

It's okay in the house, but because of their age, innocence and vulnerability, I wouldn't want them breastfeeding their doll in public.

Roe23 2 kids; Ottawa, Ontario 4199 posts
9th Nov '12

My children pretend to breastfeed the many dolls we have around here, we don't need any more, especially not ones that make noise :).



I like the idea, but it seems unnecessary.

Emmy's Mom 1 child; Indiana 1831 posts
9th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Andi+Andy=Marley+1:</b>" Bill O'reilly can suck my dick. Douchebag is an idiot"</blockquote>




'I just want kids to be kids'. That statement just screams 'breast feeding is a sexual thing'.



I think this doll would be freaking adorable (not so keen on the price). I also think it would go a long way in helping this country dig out of the massive sexual parameters we have placed on breastfeeding.

Roe23 2 kids; Ottawa, Ontario 4199 posts
9th Nov '12
Quoting Squid Kid:" It's okay in the house, but because of their age, innocence and vulnerability, I wouldn't want them breastfeeding their doll in public."


I don't have a problem with my children breastfeeding dolls in public (quiet dolls), however, now that my daughter is almost 4, she knows that breasts are private (including hers) and only breastfeeds through her shirt.



My son knows that my breasts are private, but he is still allowed to show his (though we discourage it, especially this time of year :D).

Fertile Mertile + D & C 2 kids; Sumter, SC, United States 37083 posts
9th Nov '12
Quoting Emmy's Mom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Andi+Andy=Marley+1:</b>" Bill O'reilly can suck my dick. Douchebag ... [snip!] ... think it would go a long way in helping this country dig out of the massive sexual parameters we have placed on breastfeeding."


When he said that, i was thinking he doesn't want them to worry about having to take care of a baby at a young age, and to enjoy being a kid. I didn't get the breasts are a sexual thing.

SavageDarling 3 kids; Webster, Massachusetts 10381 posts
9th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Squid Kid:</b>" It's okay in the house, but because of their age, innocence and vulnerability, I wouldn't want them breastfeeding their doll in public."</blockquote>




Can you elaborate? When I nurse my daughter in public my son often sits next to me and pretends to nurse his doll/stuffed animal at the same time. I think it's sweet.

Emmy's Mom 1 child; Indiana 1831 posts
9th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Squid Kid:</b>" It's okay in the house, but because of their age, innocence and vulnerability, I wouldn't want them breastfeeding their doll in public."</blockquote>




No judgement, just wondering why?



I can't breastfeed in public. I'm way too shy. I honestly think that if I had had something like this, or been exposed to breastfeeding more when I was growing up, I wouldn't feel the way I do about breastfeeding in public. I'd actually love to be able to do it.

SavageDarling 3 kids; Webster, Massachusetts 10381 posts
9th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fertile Mertile + D & C:</b>" When he said that, i was thinking he doesn't want them to worry about having to take care of a baby at a young age, and to enjoy being a kid. I didn't get the breasts are a sexual thing."</blockquote>



Kids have been playing with/taking care of baby dolls since WAY before this breastfeeding doll. I doubt that's what he meant, because in that case he wouldn't like any dolls.