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★Momma Dee★ 1 child; New York 5788 posts
10th Nov '12
Quoting ★Bαtgirl:" Did I ever say EVERYONE? No. Way to put words in my mouth to support your arguments. All I said was that the best way to help people in need, is NOT more benefits! It's BETTER JOBS. "


How can poor people get better jobs if they don't have experience or have a degree? Well stop putting words in my mouth. Yeah you don't like that shit huh smh.

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25368 posts
10th Nov '12
Quoting Gir!:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ★Momma Dee★:</b>" Bush probably would've been assassinated ... [snip!] ... would have killed bush if he were black then why is Obama still standing after 4yrs? This statement is just ridiculous to say."


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Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25368 posts
10th Nov '12
Quoting ★Momma Dee★:" How can poor people get better jobs if they don't have experience or have a degree? Well stop putting words in my mouth. Yeah you don't like that shit huh smh."


Poor people HAVE the opportunity to go and get an education right now... if they don't... that is their own fault.



And before you tell me about money and opportunity... I'll call bullshit right now. *I* go to school on student loans that I have to pay back later. I get grants based off of income. I go to school. Loans aren't based off of where you live or credit. If you're a U.S. Citizen, and dont' have a felony drug conviction, or have not defaulted on loans in the past, you CAN get financial aid loans. ANYONE can go to school. I process financial aid for a living and have for years. I know this shit. If they dont think they have "time" to go to school, many legit schools offer online education. I work full time, have two kids, and still make time... because I WANT it.



People will find any excuse to not better their situations. anyone can move forward if they WANT to.

★Momma Dee★ 1 child; New York 5788 posts
11th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:</b>" Poor people HAVE the opportunity to go and get an education right now... if they don't... that is their ... [snip!] ... because I WANT it. People will find any excuse to not better their situations. anyone can move forward if they WANT to. "</blockquote>




Yes there is loabs anf financial out there, but don't get it twisted it is NOT an essy road because everyone does not have the same situations that makes it easy to go school and get a degree. A lot of minorites grow up into a family that has nothing. This makes it harder dor usbtonaccomplish our goals. Even if you do get a job and of course its not high paying you have to pay those loans back and now a days you dont just magically get a job right after graduating. I've heard and seen a lot of bs and unfairness towards black people and orher minorites in the work force. So it's not as easy as you say it is. Tell me why is it that cops are trained to shoot a black people that looks suspect first and ask questions later? And you think we now have no reason to be racists? Be black for a day and maybe then you can relate.

★Momma Dee★ 1 child; New York 5788 posts
11th Nov '12

Heard of pell and grant? That's what i receive it. The question is will i get a decent job after college. You have to make almost next to nothing or have kids to receive financial aid. If you do have a job your either going to get partial or no financial aid. Who the hell wants to take out loans? Obviously most of the time the cops are not on danger they just shoot because they think we're suspect and armed when were not. That same damn story always happens to black people. Dont give me that crap they're just defendin themselves. Tell that to trayvon martin's parents, Ramarley Graham's parents. What about sean bell and Amadou Diallo? All these black men were UNARMED and you got the nerve to tell me the cops are just defending themselves? f**k out of here with that.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
11th Nov '12

I completely agree with you! :)

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25368 posts
11th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ★Momma Dee★:</b>" Heard of pell and grant? That's what i receive it. The question is will i get a decent job after college. ... [snip!] ... black men were UNARMED and you got the nerve to tell me the cops are just defending themselves? f**k out of here with that."</blockquote>



No. You're making excuses. Like I said. I do this for a living. To get financial aid loans, it is NOT based on income. Anyone can get loans. Now grants, that is income based yes, but it works on a sliding scale. We make over 50k a year and still qualify. Anyone can get loans to pay back later. And who wants to take out loans???? People who want to succeed and aren't just looking for free government hand outs! MANY people understand that in order to succeed they have to go the extra mile and MAY have something to pay back later. It's a sacrifice that is worth bettering their lives for.



Even rich people my have difficulty getting a job after college. You're throwing a million excuses out there. If someone wants to better themselves and their situation, they would. Plain and simple.



And way to go throwing martin into the conversation. Has NOTHING to do with school and financial aid. You are totally grasping at straws. How to you explain people that HAVE come from nothing, go to school, and become something? Because they wanted to. It happens everyday. People from the ghetto get past their circumstances and want more for themselves.



YOU get out of here with all these "poor me" excuses. Poor people have the same opportunity for college as rich people.

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25368 posts
11th Nov '12

And... I'm seriously sooo annoyed with your poor me posts and your white man is tryin to keep the black man down, that I can already see I won't be having an intelligent conversation with you. So, if you respond, I probably wont respond to you. You're coming across as angry and ignorant. I get a little bit of time on here, what with working full time, going to school full time, and raising two kids and taking care of my household. I don't want to spend my little bit of time arguing with someone who couldn't give a shit anyways.

★Momma Dee★ 1 child; New York 5788 posts
11th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ★Momma Dee★:</b>" Heard of pell and grant? That's ... [snip!] ... YOU get out of here with all these "poor me" excuses. Poor people have the same opportunity for college as rich people."</blockquote>




Well of you do have kids it's easier to get financial aid everyone is not in YOUR situation, but for someone that is young with no kids and parents making a certain amount of money they may not get financial aid and parents or the child has to pay out the pocket. There was a time when i couldn't get financial aid. I have an ex friend that was in school she couldnt get it either. It all depends on who you live with how much they make or you make and if you have dependents. If i have no job im not going to take out a loan especially in this economy. I woukd find a job first and with this economy its going to take alot of time. It's not excuses it's real life shit. Yes I mentioned martin and 3 others. This thread is not about loans and financial aid. I agreed to the op that its fucked up to keep mentioning racism on your facebook, but im letting her know it still EXISTS its not obsolete.

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25368 posts
11th Nov '12
Quoting ★Momma Dee★:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ★Momma ... [snip!] ... the op that its fucked up to keep mentioning racism on your facebook, but im letting her know it still EXISTS its not obsolete."


Education has everything to do with this. For those thinking the white man is still out to get them? Prove them wrong. Make something of yourself. Dont just wallow in poverty, g**g b**g, or do/sell drugs. Dont fit the stereotype you think others have of you. Get the hell out of your situation.



And no, no one wants to take out loans in this economy, but did you know that loans are payable, for 10 years? People have 10 YEARS to pay them off. And repayment is based on income... if you only make 2000 a month, then you can pay 50 bucks or so. Or, they can put their loans off for a few years until they get on their feet. A student loan is not a death sentence. I'm worried about how I will pay off my (Currently 49 THOUSAND I owe in student loans) But I'll make it happen.



No one is denying that racism still exists. White people are definitely racist against other races. She is stating that black people are racist against white people as well, but it's more "Politically correct" for a black person to complain about white people, than it is for a white person to complain about black people.



If YOU stood in a crowded room and yelled "f**k you stupid honkeys".... and *I* stood in a crowded room and yelled "f**k you stupid n****rs"... who do you think would get into more trouble?



Racism is NOT okay in any shape or form. Yes, it still exists. Yes... it is still wrong, for anyone. But why is it more okay for black people to be racist?

Bangtail 50 kids; Katy, Texas 7721 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting ★Momma Dee★:" Obama has done worse? lmfao hahah I'm done wow. Bush is the one that started the mess and Obama has ... [snip!] ... mess and Obama has done worse? Bush didn't even help out the victims in the katrina hurricane. smh. I'm done I have shit to do."


Awe, people like you make me thankful for the wonderful education I received.



Number one: Oil greedy? Not even sure exactly what that means, but please tell me how "oil greedy" we are when you're using rollers, driving a car, drinking out of a plastic cup, even using your laptop. ALL PETROLEUM PRODUCTS.



Number two: Bush didn't help during Katrina? New Orleans wasn't even the worst hit area, but it got all the news. Oh, and the fact that the residents were raping each other, murdering each other, stealing money on their FEMA debit cards, all while complaining that no one was helping them. Sound racist? I couldn't give a f**k less because I was in the thick of the shit. While people were opening their homes, we were getting called racist. FEMA has failed miserably with Sandy, the same way the failed miserably with Ike. Somehow our nation is always under-prepared for a natural disaster that we can f**king see coming for a week. I guess Obama must be racist against guidos.



Number three: the economy went to shit under Bush due in large part to factors that began under Clinton, including a record number of raises in the interest rates by the FED, the dot.com boom/bust, and the real estate bust lead in HUGE part by the dot.com bust. Do your research. Bush may have been a couple steps above retarded, but a lot of the shit that happened was set in motion long before he was in office.



I don't think anyone is trying to say racism doesn't exist. It does. It is not as violent as it once was; it's more in undertones. However, ALL RACES ARE GUILTY of it now.

Bangtail 50 kids; Katy, Texas 7721 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting The Doctor:" Were you born in AK? Or did you just live there for a while?"


I just lived there for awhile. I'm an oil brat :)