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Derp TTC since Jan 2014; 1 child; Camp Lejeune, NC, United States 11449 posts
12th Nov '12

My husband and I will not mind if our taxes go up if it contributes to the greater good.

mamaluvsher4babies 36 kids; California 4230 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting Raptor Jesus:" My husband and I will not mind if our taxes go up if it contributes to the greater good. "


what do you consider the greater good?

Derp TTC since Jan 2014; 1 child; Camp Lejeune, NC, United States 11449 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting mamaluvsher4babies:" what do you consider the greater good?"

Typical things that taxes go to. We need more money for better public schools, healthcare for everyone, etc. What we have now isn't cutting it.

mamaluvsher4babies 36 kids; California 4230 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting Raptor Jesus:" Typical things that taxes go to. We need more money for better public schools, healthcare for everyone, etc. What we have now isn't cutting it. "


Ya I am for helping schools, we already pay alot of taxes for schools and most of it isnt going to schools..We will agree to disagree on the healthcare lol..paying more taxes isnt helping anyone

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting Raptor Jesus:" Typical things that taxes go to. We need more money for better public schools, healthcare for everyone, etc. What we have now isn't cutting it. "


If we taxed the 1%ers at 100%, we'd only be able to run the government for ~88 days.



We spend the most money per student in the world, yet our school system sucks balls. Do you really think throwing more money at it is the answer?

. Way, MA, United States 73770 posts
12th Nov '12

Not excited.

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" If we taxed the 1%ers at 100%, we'd only be able to run the government for ~88 days. We spend the ... [snip!] ... money per student in the world, yet our school system sucks balls. Do you really think throwing more money at it is the answer?"


I like Japan's school system even though there is a high rate of suicide with it. Start testing in about the 8th grade and if you fail, go to tech school or drop out and get a job. Not everyone needs to finish high school or go to college.

Heck, or do what the military did back in the 1940's and do aptitude tests. My grandpa was a fighter pilot (and officer) with an 8th grade education.

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting Δ ☮ ∂:" Not excited. "


Aw come on, be a patriot.



My husband was figuring out how much our taxes will swing if this goes into effect (he's an accountant). He's thinking about $7,000. I'm just glad that he works so hard to provide so many Obamaphones for inner city school kids.

. Way, MA, United States 73770 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" Aw come on, be a patriot. My husband was figuring out how much our taxes will swing if this goes into ... [snip!] ... He's thinking about $7,000. I'm just glad that he works so hard to provide so many Obamaphones for inner city school kids."

Where's my Obamaphone?!

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting Δ ☮ ∂:" Where's my Obamaphone?!"



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTYiKjFnMos



That lady took yours^

. Way, MA, United States 73770 posts
12th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTYiKjFnMos That lady took yours^"

Ahhh heelll naah.



Okay seriously, do people not get embarrassed anymore? :? I just don't understand.

......................... Oregon 14226 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting TheNuge:" I agree. They will not increase taxes for those making $200k but they will probably increase taxes ... [snip!] ... hope that the Rs are able to make more than a dent in spending. Cuts should be real cuts and not just reductions in increases."


We're in the middle 5th and about to go under...if taxes go up any more we're screwed.

......................... Oregon 14226 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting Δ ☮ ∂:" Where's my Obamaphone?!"



LOL Obamaphone!

......................... Oregon 14226 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting Raptor Jesus:" Typical things that taxes go to. We need more money for better public schools, healthcare for everyone, etc. What we have now isn't cutting it. "


But in yet our taxes aren't necessarily going to that.



If they were, my son wouldn't have a week off for Thanksgiving break and the numerous other "State Cut Furlough" days.



If he wasn't SN he'd be home schooled.



And if taxes weren't so high and he wasn't SN he'd be private schooled. 100%

Derp TTC since Jan 2014; 1 child; Camp Lejeune, NC, United States 11449 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" If we taxed the 1%ers at 100%, we'd only be able to run the government for ~88 days. We spend the ... [snip!] ... money per student in the world, yet our school system sucks balls. Do you really think throwing more money at it is the answer?"

I didn't say it was THE answer. Obviously there needs to be a lot of reform in how our government is run but higher taxes definitely wouldn't hurt when it comes to providing basic necessities like education and healthcare for people. Unfortunately politicians can't seem to compromise on just about anything and people suffer as a result.



The Clinton administration had "high" taxes and spectacular results. The deficit was erased and there was an actual surplus. Unemployment was low and people were given incentives to find employment if they were accepting aid in the form of food stamps or disability. (One issue I have with Obama is that I feel people are given financial help way too easily and this is one thing that needs to change; there needs to be a time limit on how long certain people can receive assistance but it also needs to be on a case by case basis.) As a result the government ended up funding fewer people and spending less money on social causes like food stamps and other such programs.



The trickle down concept, however, has never worked when it comes to totally erasing the deficit. It didn't happen with Reagan or either Bush and with the latter Bush the deficit actually grew despite his massive tax cuts and his attempt to jump start the economy by giving everyone free money. It hasn't worked for at least three administrations whereas creating slightly higher taxes and reform at basic levels of government has worked. (At least as far as I'm concerned... I'm sure your definition of "worked" will be different than mine though as we can't seem to agree on anything.) The combination of Clinton and a very conservative Congress led to the U.S having eight straight years of massive growth.



I'm all for trying something other than what I mentioned above but neither party has proposed anything that sounds reasonable enough for me to support. Until then I'll continue to buy into the idea that slightly raising taxes and creating a lot of reform is a winning combination for the U.S. and its people.