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SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" Oh, absolutely. I guess, personally, I am sick of the sore loser mentality in this country. Not ... [snip!] ... and support them in any way that I can. That went for Obama and Romney. I love America too much to simply say "Eff you guys!""


I totally agree.



People have this allegiance to party and could care less if it's bad for the country. I wish our government would work together and come up with actual solutions. I guess, in a way, I honestly believe the politicians fight to keep their constituents fighting...that way we'll all be too busy fighting to notice that they're looting the treasury and screwing us all over.

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57831 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" I totally agree. People have this allegiance to party and could care less if it's bad for the country. ... [snip!] ... fighting...that way we'll all be too busy fighting to notice that they're looting the treasury and screwing us all over."


I know you are generally not very left leaning but have you ever seen Dylan Ratigans rant on MSNBC about how our savings, our money, our livelihood is being extracted from us every day by the bought Congress that was supposedly elected to serve us?



I completely agree with his entire stance. Others tend to think he's loony. lol

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" I know you are generally not very left leaning but have you ever seen Dylan Ratigans rant on MSNBC about ... [snip!] ... that was supposedly elected to serve us? I completely agree with his entire stance. Others tend to think he's loony. lol"


I just looked it up, and I'm watching it right now.



He's pretty much spot on. Sad, really.

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57831 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" I just looked it up, and I'm watching it right now. He's pretty much spot on. Sad, really."


We will never have any true "change" in this country until our politicians can no longer be bought. It sucks.

Why would a congressman give a lowly teacher like me his support when he can get millions from Walmart to support Charter Schools instead?

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" Doesn't anyone else see the beauty in the fact that we, as a country, have handed over power peacefully ... [snip!] ... we should be proud of! We vote! We don't have to have death and destruction in order to have a new leader. That is AWESOME."


You mean since 1860. The South seceded mainly in part because of the election of Lincoln and started the process a few days after the election results were posted and had all seceded by February 1861, just one month after his inaguration.

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" We will never have any true "change" in this country until our politicians can no longer be bought. ... [snip!] ... congressman give a lowly teacher like me his support when he can get millions from Walmart to support Charter Schools instead?"


I have a family friend who is a lobbyist. He says the cycle is: business gives politician money for campaign, politician gets into office and legislates to help business make more money, business uses the extra money to give back to the politician at the next election, etc, etc



And the middle class are the poor saps who are paying for it.

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57831 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting khigh:" You mean since 1860. The South seceded mainly in part because of the election of Lincoln and started ... [snip!] ... a few days after the election results were posted and had all seceded by February 1861, just one month after his inaguration."


My point, though, is that they didn't simply go for Lincoln's throat when they disagreed with him.

While I don't agree with secession when one doesn't like their interim leader, its better than the alternative, yes.

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57831 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" I have a family friend who is a lobbyist. He says the cycle is: business gives politician money for ... [snip!] ... to give back to the politician at the next election, etc, etc And the middle class are the poor saps who are paying for it."


So how do us middle class people get our voices heard? Nothing has worked yet.

~**germaphobic**~ 3 kids; Georgia 2205 posts
13th Nov '12

Why are they saying that there will be a civil war?I saw a video my sister showed me and it says "get ready for war ppl" let me find a link

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" So how do us middle class people get our voices heard? Nothing has worked yet."


Good question.



People need to vote for senators and congressmen who truly have our best interests in mind. I don't understand how congress has a 10% approval rating, yet the same morons keep getting elected.

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57831 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting ~**germaphobic**~:" Why are they saying that there will be a civil war?I saw a video my sister showed me and it says "get ready for war ppl" let me find a link"


Because if history repeats itself, we are not going to allow states to seceed peacefully from our country. We will fight ourselves. Again. :?

I would be more afraid for the states that seceed and their ability to defend themselves from other threats.

~**germaphobic**~ 3 kids; Georgia 2205 posts
13th Nov '12

Why are they saying that there will be a civil war?I saw a video my sister showed me and it says "get ready for war ppl" let me find a link
http://www.examiner.com/article/15-states-including-texas-have-filed-a-petition-to-secede-from-the-united-states-1



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6I3ZQuf_E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57831 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" Good question. People need to vote for senators and congressmen who truly have our best interests ... [snip!] ... best interests in mind. I don't understand how congress has a 10% approval rating, yet the same morons keep getting elected."


My fear always comes that I vote for the one that says they have our best interests at heart and then completely screw us in the end. *coughMitchDanielscough*

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" My fear always comes that I vote for the one that says they have our best interests at heart and then completely screw us in the end. *coughMitchDanielscough*"


But then people are too complacent to hold their representatives accountable.



Maybe people will wake up after the economy collapses.

~**germaphobic**~ 3 kids; Georgia 2205 posts
13th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Emily Dickinson:</b>" Because if history repeats itself, we are not going to allow states to seceed peacefully from our ... [snip!] ... Again. :? I would be more afraid for the states that seceed and their ability to defend themselves from other threats."</blockquote>




This is freaking crazy! I live in. Georgia so damn wtf are we supposed to expect?