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Cast Your Vote:

    • Yes- people who come here should learn English -- Votes: 64
    • No- we need to help others who cannot understand English -- Votes: 26
    • Other- Explain -- Votes: 9
Bangtail 50 kids; Houston, TX, United States 7754 posts
Nov 23rd '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Tarynosaurus Rex:</b>" America does not have an official language, so until it does people really need to shut up. It's not ... [snip!] ... spell or use correct grammar. They're getting onto people for not speaking English and they suck at the language themselves."</blockquote>




Wanting people to speak English doesn't make you racist.

Bangtail 50 kids; Houston, TX, United States 7754 posts
Nov 23rd '12

Living where I do, I run into a lot of people who cannot speak English, and most times it is not a huge issue. The only time I get frustrated is when it is at a restaurant or another place where they are providing customer service and we can't communicate. English is not an easy language to learn. Plus, it is always easier for someone to communicate effectively in their native tongue.



Now, there are instances where you can choose not to hire someone who cannot speak English because of safety concerns and it is not discrimination.

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
Nov 23rd '12
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" To be fair... when I posted this, it was because Dh and I ran to Harbor Freight (A tool store) to pick ... [snip!] ... how chaotic that would be? I mean.... keeping 15 people on staff at a hospital just to translate? It could get confusing."

Well since lik 98 percent of americans speak it, I doubt that will be happening anytime soon :-P.

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
Nov 23rd '12

This is nothing new though, When my grandparents came to the country my grand father never learned a lick of english. He lived in a italian neighborhood, and got along without it. Whether he ever learned enough to get by outside of it I don't know. I was little when he died, and I don't remember him speaking any. I think that there is nothing wrong with catering to them because it's good business sense.

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25439 posts
Nov 23rd '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting MysticWitchKat:</b>" This is nothing new though, When my grandparents came to the country my grand father never learned a ... [snip!] ... I don't remember him speaking any. I think that there is nothing wrong with catering to them because it's good business sense."</blockquote>



Its also good business sense to not alienate other customers. To specifically not have signs in English.... makes it difficult for the other "98%" to know where things are in the store. Why cater to such a small population of non English speakers then? N
Why not have signs in English AND Spanish? We won't go back because its difficult navigating the store and I'll drive a little out of the way for more convenience.

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
Nov 23rd '12
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MysticWitchKat:</b>" This is nothing new though, When my grandparents ... [snip!] ... We won't go back because its difficult navigating the store and I'll drive a little out of the way for more convenience."

I'm assuming because majority of the area must speak it. I do agree having both sings would be nice though.

Tarynosaurus Rex San Antonio, Texas 1271 posts
Nov 25th '12
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" To be fair... when I posted this, it was because Dh and I ran to Harbor Freight (A tool store) to pick ... [snip!] ... how chaotic that would be? I mean.... keeping 15 people on staff at a hospital just to translate? It could get confusing."


America is kind of a selfish country in that sense though. We don't teach our kids other languages for the most part. Spanish is only touched upon briefly. Most other countries DO teach English and a lot of that has to do with catering to the ego of Americans. I think it would do us all some good to learn another language instead of demanding that everyone learn ours. Sure I think there should be signs in English everywhere, but I don't think English should be our only accepted language.

Tarynosaurus Rex San Antonio, Texas 1271 posts
Nov 25th '12
Quoting Bangtail:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Tarynosaurus Rex:</b>" America does not have an official language, ... [snip!] ... and they suck at the language themselves."</blockquote> Wanting people to speak English doesn't make you racist."


That in and of itself doesn't necessarily make a person racist, but the majority of people I know who b***h about it are VERY racist.

Bangtail 50 kids; Houston, TX, United States 7754 posts
Dec 2nd '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Tarynosaurus Rex:</b>" That in and of itself doesn't necessarily make a person racist, but the majority of people I know who b***h about it are VERY racist."</blockquote>



That's very true. Honestly, I used to think that way. I didn't understand why I should have to bend. But life experience changed my views. I've had the pleasure of working with a lot of immigrants who were more thankful for what they had then most people born here and I found myself wanting to learn their language, not only to help but also as a sign of respect.

EnnaBennaBanana Due February 2; 2 kids; Maryland 6195 posts
Dec 2nd '12
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" How do you feel when you walk into a business and their literature/signs, etc are written in another ... [snip!] ... :) K, my poll doesn't make sense with the yes or no's sorry..... I'm sooo tired today. The general idea is there though."


I do think people should learn English if they move here. My grandpa came here from Greece not knowing a word of English and he taught himself english.

Tarynosaurus Rex San Antonio, Texas 1271 posts
Dec 2nd '12
Quoting Bangtail:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Tarynosaurus Rex:</b>" That in and of itself doesn't necessarily ... [snip!] ... then most people born here and I found myself wanting to learn their language, not only to help but also as a sign of respect."


My grandma came here from Germany 50 years ago and didn't know a lick of English. Now she speaks English better than the majority of Americans do. I just take offense when people assume that every immigrant refuses to learn the language. Most do try, but it's not easy, especially if you're really new to the country. They can't be expected to be fluent in a few months or even a few years in some cases. People learn at different paces. And the majority of these "speak English!" people only b***h about people who speak Spanish. It's not fair.

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
Dec 2nd '12
Quoting Tarynosaurus Rex:" My grandma came here from Germany 50 years ago and didn't know a lick of English. Now she speaks English ... [snip!] ... at different paces. And the majority of these "speak English!" people only b***h about people who speak Spanish. It's not fair."


Totally.



And gawd-f**king-forbid Americans learn another language.

Bangtail 50 kids; Houston, TX, United States 7754 posts
Dec 2nd '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Tarynosaurus Rex:</b>" My grandma came here from Germany 50 years ago and didn't know a lick of English. Now she speaks English ... [snip!] ... at different paces. And the majority of these "speak English!" people only b***h about people who speak Spanish. It's not fair."</blockquote>




That's because that's the majority of what they actually run into. It's not about being fair; it's life experience. I've had the pleasure of working with Laotian, Thai, Russian, German, Kenyan, and Mexican immigrants. The majority of the ones that couldn't speak English were Hispanic but I think that has to do with the fact that there's a larger Hispanic culture here so it is easier (for lack of a better word) for them to not learn English right away. When I was younger, I'd get frustrated with them. But now, I attempt to do what I can to communicate effectively with them. But I'm much better at understand Spanish then I am speaking it. I do what I can, though. Sadly, I cannot legally hire them unless they have at least a working knowledge of English.

Tarynosaurus Rex San Antonio, Texas 1271 posts
Dec 2nd '12
Quoting Dr. Paradigm Shift:" Totally. And gawd-f**king-forbid Americans learn another language. "


We live in a very me me me culture. Most other countries learn at least a little bit of English. Yet we expect not to have to learn any other language? Makes me sick. I love learning languages. I don't get the hangup.

Bangtail 50 kids; Houston, TX, United States 7754 posts
Dec 2nd '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Dr. Paradigm Shift:</b>" Totally. And gawd-f**king-forbid Americans learn another language. "</blockquote>



I'm very instant that my children learn Spanish because that's the predominant other language in this area. My husbands family gripes about it, but I think it's a respect thing. English is not an easy language to learn. Right now I'm homeschooling my 5 and 7 year olds and I'm realizing that there are very few constant rules in our language. It's just not an easy language to learn. I want them to know and respect that fact. I've just developed a huge respect for the immigrants in this area. The majority work very hard just to send a few bucks to their families in their home countries, and they're thankful for it. Yes, there's criminals in the mix, but most are just trying to better themselves and their families and I can't fault them for that.