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HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 22490 posts
status 13th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting E.P. Mom:</b>" But even adults are checked for their mental capacity before a trial. Which is why some people are deemed ... [snip!] ... does really have a mental issue and they screen her like they are supposed to, she wouldn't get the adult punishment anyways. "</blockquote>




Exactly!

Mrs cree Due November 23; 33 kids; Ontario 1907 posts
13th Nov '12

I think situations can be different that girls family continually asked her if she was pregnant she lied and told them she miscarried and she also pryed the baby out of her vagina with a pair of scissors the fact that she hid the baby in her closet after all of that she should be tried as an adult. Actually most kids who murder should be tried as an adult unless there are special circumstances like extreme abuse, sexual abuse, mentally ill but kids aren't the same as even 20 years ago. 12&13 years olds dressing like adults, having sex, doing drugs, robbing people, I would have never imagined anyone I know doing that so I think we need more severe punishment in some cases I'm just saying

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 22490 posts
status 13th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs cree:</b>" I think situations can be different that girls family continually asked her if she was pregnant she lied ... [snip!] ... I would have never imagined anyone I know doing that so I think we need more severe punishment in some cases I'm just saying"</blockquote>




I totally agree

Sweet Little Lies TTC since Dec 2013; 2 kids; Deception, WI, United States 3594 posts
status 13th Nov '12

http://www.kmov.com/home/3-teens-charged-in-54-year-old-mans-murder-in-Granite-City-179169131.html



I didn't read any of the comments, but this case in particular makes me think kids/teens who commit murder should be charged as adults.

Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom 2 kids; Raleigh, North Carolina 14528 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting bbbt:" Exactly, so what I said in the OP, the heinousness of the crime determines if a child is tried as an adult or not. Age is irrelevant. Okay."


IMO, yes.

Leannah Carrasco 3 kids; Yuba City, California 346 posts
13th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting HopingforaMiracle:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting bbbt:</b>" Did you mean is or isn't? "</blockquote> For me it was worse than I imagine prison would be. It was horrible."</blockquote>




See you imagine it would be ... You arent for sure I went to several hospitals and can sure as hell tell you I survived with a better deal on my plate than if I didnt go... My brother has been in hospitals too and got outta prison last yr he wouldnt wish it on anyone not even his worse enemy he has trouble sleeping at night because of prison ! Never I can believe you losing sleep over what you seen in The hospital.... And it sure as hell not what people that can be helped deserve

E.P. Mom Due March 14; 1 child; Texas 2668 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting Mrs cree:" I think situations can be different that girls family continually asked her if she was pregnant she lied ... [snip!] ... I would have never imagined anyone I know doing that so I think we need more severe punishment in some cases I'm just saying"

Back home I worked at the SO and two brothers one 8 and one 9 were brought in for burglarizing a home and setting it on fire... WTF is wrong with these kids. I'm pretty sure their older brother was in a gang and they were trying to get noticed. Little heathens! I don't know what type of punishment they got, but I know when I was 9 I was not thinking, hmmm who's house can I destroy today!?

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 22490 posts
status 13th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Leannah Carrasco:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting HopingforaMiracle:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting bbbt:</b>" ... [snip!] ... believe you losing sleep over what you seen in The hospital.... And it sure as hell not what people that can be helped deserve"</blockquote>




I do lose sleep from what I saw in the hospital :? I don't talk a lot about what happened to me in the hospital or what I saw. It is too painful. I've had multiple say that being in the hospital I was in is way worse than being in prison

Leannah Carrasco 3 kids; Yuba City, California 346 posts
13th Nov '12

I have seen pretty bad things a girl being wrestled to the floor given shots to calm her down and put it a "protective" jacket n thrown in the "quiet room" and many much but trust me its not worse than people being cut open and raped screaming for gaurds who dont help them and no one deserves those things

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 22490 posts
status 13th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Leannah Carrasco:</b>" I have seen pretty bad things a girl being wrestled to the floor given shots to calm her down and put ... [snip!] ... me its not worse than people being cut open and raped screaming for gaurds who dont help them and no one deserves those things"</blockquote>



I'm not going to compare my experiences.

E.P. Mom Due March 14; 1 child; Texas 2668 posts
13th Nov '12
Quoting Leannah Carrasco:" I have seen pretty bad things a girl being wrestled to the floor given shots to calm her down and put ... [snip!] ... me its not worse than people being cut open and raped screaming for gaurds who dont help them and no one deserves those things"

All Corrections Officers aren't out there to let other inmates get vigilante justice. It's only a few but they taint the whole career field. The judge and jury sentence the person and deem the punishment, NOT the CO.

Leannah Carrasco 3 kids; Yuba City, California 346 posts
13th Nov '12

Its just they throw just about everyone in there like my cousins supposed killer has got 5 yrs in prison when he should have been put in a rehab for his drinking and probation for stealing his moms car 16 and 5 yrs max prison for murder when he was just as drunk as my cousin was its wrong and its too harsh its prison time for everyone nowdays and yes its only few co bcuz no my dad would stop anyone from being hurt in any way shape or form but it still makes prison prison

mamaluvsher4babies 36 kids; California 4230 posts
13th Nov '12

It depends on the situation. I just get tired of people finding excuses for women who kill their children. I have had times where I just sat down and cried I was so stressed, but I walk away. I would never hurt my kids. If I ever felt like harming one, I would swallow my pride and get some help

Kaleighshaleigh 3 kids; USA 5702 posts
13th Nov '12

To me it depends on the kid and the crime. I saw a show today where a 16 year old shot and killed a random 15 year old for absolutely no reason and when arrested showed no remorse. In my opinion this 16 year old is old bough to know right from wrong and made the choice to kill. He should be tried as an adult.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31319 posts
status 14th Nov '12
Quoting bbbt:" I know it. I think they are saying now that the brain isn't even fully developed until 24-25. "

The frontal lobe doesn't fully deveop until 22-25