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Cast Your Vote:

    • Yes, it is irresponsible -- Votes: 53
    • No, it isn't -- Votes: 68
    • Other (explain) -- Votes: 8
user banned Due September 18 (boy); 1 child; California 21617 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting James Mama:" Some people yes, some jobs do not offer it. What about unexpected bills or college?"


Most people that cannot afford college either have financial aid or don't go.
And what about unexpected bills? It's not like a bill can just pop up and you can run down to the welfare office and have them pay for it. Unexpected bills are.. unexpected.. You can't prepare for it, so using possible unexpected bills as a reason you think people living paycheck to paycheck are on welfare is dumb.

mamaluvsher4babies 36 kids; California 4230 posts
14th Nov '12

TTC Yes its irresponsible..but sometimes shit happens.I dont think you need to be rich to have kids. Kids do not need more then basics to survive.

LolaMcKitten Due May 30 (girl); 27 kids; Beverly Hills, California 15496 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting James Mama:" I neer said they were. I said most. Not all. How did they provide you with a college education living paycheck to paycheck? "


I wouldn't pay for my kids college even if I had the money for it - I did it on my own, it's a fact of life. I went to college, my parents didn't pay for it. Heck, my ex whose parents were loaded didn't even pay for their kids college.

Jasmine❤️ (26 weeks) Due October 15 (girl); 2 kids; Fullerton, CA, United States 1782 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting James Mama:" You too please explain how someone living paycheck to paycheck is able to afford health insurance and any other unexpected bills."


When i was in high school and my dad got laid off of work, we were living paycheck to paycheck off of my mom's income. She makes $80,000 a year and after medical costs, house payment, car insurance, and all other bills each month we'd be paycheck to paycheck and we obviously didn't have welfare. Why do you assume that paycheck to paycheck means you didn't put part of your income towards insurance?

James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting LolaMcKitten:" I wouldn't pay for my kids college even if I had the money for it - I did it on my own, it's a fact ... [snip!] ... I went to college, my parents didn't pay for it. Heck, my ex whose parents were loaded didn't even pay for their kids college. "


Really? I will definitely help my children in a successful life! I did not have help with college and I have so many loans to pay off. Ifmy prents were responsible I would not have that and I would not want that for my children.



James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting M&D's Momma:" When i was in high school and my dad got laid off of work, we were living paycheck to paycheck off ... [snip!] ... didn't have welfare. Why do you assume that paycheck to paycheck means you didn't put part of your income towards insurance?"


That was just assuming it was an outside cost. Many people have medical bills and maybe not just the insurance premiumbut deductibles.



What I have said was not specific they were just examples that may or may not pertain to certain situations.



Unexpected bills would include like if your child broke a bone playing sports.

Mummy-2-2-Monsters 2 kids; Seven Hills, Australia 8951 posts
14th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting James Mama:</b>" Really? I will definitely help my children in a successful life! I did not have help with college and ... [snip!] ... so many loans to pay off. Ifmy prents were responsible I would not have that and I would not want that for my children. "</blockquote>




I couldn't do that, just have them fend for themselves. We've already put away a college/ savings for our kids and they're almost 3 and 5.

Jasmine❤️ (26 weeks) Due October 15 (girl); 2 kids; Fullerton, CA, United States 1782 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting James Mama:" That was just assuming it was an outside cost. Many people have medical bills and maybe not just the ... [snip!] ... may or may not pertain to certain situations. Unexpected bills would include like if your child broke a bone playing sports."


well isn't that normally is covered if you have insurance? I broke my before and it was covered.

LolaMcKitten Due May 30 (girl); 27 kids; Beverly Hills, California 15496 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting James Mama:" Really? I will definitely help my children in a successful life! I did not have help with college and ... [snip!] ... so many loans to pay off. Ifmy prents were responsible I would not have that and I would not want that for my children. "


Not paying for college is not irresponsible. Thats just bullshit, people have college loans, it's a fact of life that I'm not going to shield my kids from. I'm not saying I wouldn't help them out or anything, but I'm not paying for it. I did it, tons of people do it, I fail to see how it's irresponsible. Sorry you weren't coddled and spoiled when you were a teen - not all people are. ;)

James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting M&D's Momma:" well isn't that normally is covered if you have insurance? I broke my before and it was covered."


Usually government medical covers the entire bill but if you have private insurance there is a deductible and an emergency room fee etc.



LolaMcKitten Due May 30 (girl); 27 kids; Beverly Hills, California 15496 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting James Mama:" Usually government medical covers the entire bill but if you have private insurance there is a deductible and an emergency room fee etc. "


I work for the government and maybe it's just that I get really good insurance, but I didn't have to pay anything when I had to go to the ER.

James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting LolaMcKitten:" Not paying for college is not irresponsible. Thats just bullshit, people have college loans, it's a ... [snip!] ... it, I fail to see how it's irresponsible. Sorry you weren't coddled and spoiled when you were a teen - not all people are. ;) "


I will make sure to provide for my children! I will NOT throw them out into the world without a helping hand. I will also supprt my childre while they attend college as long as they are getting good grades.



I will do whatever it takes for my children to be successful and live happy healthy successful lives.

James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting LolaMcKitten:" I work for the government and maybe it's just that I get really good insurance, but I didn't have to pay anything when I had to go to the ER. "


Lucky you. Again this wasnt specifically about YOU, it was a general statement and of course will not be right for everyone.

*A&N's Mama* 2 kids; Halifax, Nova Scotia 4627 posts
14th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting James Mama:</b>" That was just assuming it was an outside cost. Many people have medical bills and maybe not just the ... [snip!] ... may or may not pertain to certain situations. Unexpected bills would include like if your child broke a bone playing sports."</blockquote>




I guess that's a good thing about living in Canada with our health care.



DH and I live cheque to cheque (for the time being) and do not lean on any form of assistance as a crutch, nor do we collect welfare. We've been lucky for the last 6 months.

LolaMcKitten Due May 30 (girl); 27 kids; Beverly Hills, California 15496 posts
14th Nov '12
Quoting James Mama:" I will make sure to provide for my children! I will NOT throw them out into the world without a helping ... [snip!] ... are getting good grades. I will do whatever it takes for my children to be successful and live happy healthy successful lives."


18+ and they cease to be children, they are adults and holding their hands and pretending like mommy is just going to pay for everything isn't exactly giving them a helping hand in the real world because in the real world, you rely on yourself and being able to just run back to mommy is just going to make for weak, codependent adults.