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Amber + 2♡ 2 kids; Kansas 19316 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting Penises 3:Vaginas 1:" Full custody means that you make all decisions about your daughter by yourself. Meaning her religion, ... [snip!] ... he is forfeiting his right to see his daughter, to support her, to make decisions and basically everything of that nature. "


Ohh okay.. :? Well if he signs over full custody would that help us in court?

Vile Tramp 2 kids; New York 32363 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting ღ mj's mama:" Ohh okay.. :? Well if he signs over full custody would that help us in court?"


Idk what's going on with court... Lol.



But it sounds like someones trying to take your daughter from you? Him signing over full custody won't help per se unless he's the problem.

AwkwardTurtle 34 kids; Syracuse, NY, United States 2085 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting ღ mj's mama:" This may be a stupid question is me having full custody and legal rights the same thing?!? :oops: Well, he said full custody AND rights, I think he thinks they're the same too."


No, its not. Custody means you would have the kid physically and be in charge of all decisions pertaining to him/her. The BD could still have visitation, but I believe it would be on your terms if you have 100% custody. custody can always go back to court, and be changed.



Rights mean "legal rights". Either parent "signing over" rights is the equivillant of an adoption. The person signing over rights no longer has just that, any rights. That person becomes, legally, no longer the parent of the child. They no longer have any right to see/speak to/have anything to do with the child. This is only allowed in cases of adoption, or the spouse of one parent "adopting" the rights to the child when one bio parent signs them over.

AwkwardTurtle 34 kids; Syracuse, NY, United States 2085 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting Penises 3:Vaginas 1:" Idk what's going on with court... Lol. But it sounds like someones trying to take your daughter from you? Him signing over full custody won't help per se unless he's the problem."


Right. Unless either or both of you are unfit parents, they cant take your kid. What are the grandparents issue?

Vile Tramp 2 kids; New York 32363 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting BryarWoods:" Right. Unless either or both of you are unfit parents, they cant take your kid. What are the grandparents issue?"



Depending on the state, the grandparents could get visitation though. Unless like you said, they are unfit. ( Parents)

AwkwardTurtle 34 kids; Syracuse, NY, United States 2085 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting Penises 3:Vaginas 1:" Depending on the state, the grandparents could get visitation though. Unless like you said, they are unfit. ( Parents)"


I have never heard of that, unless the child of the grandparents died or somehow lost custody.



If there are two able parents in a childs life, how on earth can grandparents seek visitation? If I didnt want my parents to see my kids id be pissed as hell if the court system forced me to let them.

loser mom Due June 25; 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Oslo, ,, Norway 10969 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting BryarWoods:" I have never heard of that, unless the child of the grandparents died or somehow lost custody. If there ... [snip!] ... seek visitation? If I didnt want my parents to see my kids id be pissed as hell if the court system forced me to let them."


Some states will allow grandparents vistation. But I believe the grandparents have to prove they had a relationship with the child before anything was taken to the courts.

Vile Tramp 2 kids; New York 32363 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting loser mom:" Some states will allow grandparents vistation. But I believe the grandparents have to prove they had a relationship with the child before anything was taken to the courts. "


^^ This.



Ny allows it as long as it's found to be in the best interest of the child(ren).

user banned Due November 7 (boy); 1 child; Dayton, Ohio 26853 posts
19th Nov '12

Your BD can give you custody, he cannot sign over paternal rights. And even if he did, his parents could still come after you.



You have 3 options:
1.) He can sign over paternal rights to your husband (that you don't have) after you have been legally married for 1 year.
2.) He can sign over paternal rights to an agency (you would have to give the child up for adoption.
3.) His rights can be terminating because he has been shown to be an unfit parent.



If he is signing over rights because he thinks it will prevent his parents from coming after your child, don't waste your time, it would only help their case because they would only have 1 parent to prove unfit instead of 2.

Amber + 2♡ 2 kids; Kansas 19316 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting loser mom:" Some states will allow grandparents vistation. But I believe the grandparents have to prove they had a relationship with the child before anything was taken to the courts. "


I honestly don't know what his parents deal is. BD is on my side 100% with this and DOES NOT want his parents to get our daughter.



They don't really have a relationship with her at all. We lived with them until she was about 3 months old. Then I moved out and they have seen her 1-2x a month (IF that) Sometimes I have offered for them to take her and they say no most of the time :? One time BD brought her over to his parents (where he lives too) and she texted me bitching about it! BD was staying there, they didn't have to do any watching or feeding or anything. I don't get it.

user banned Due November 7 (boy); 1 child; Dayton, Ohio 26853 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting BryarWoods:" I have never heard of that, unless the child of the grandparents died or somehow lost custody. If there ... [snip!] ... seek visitation? If I didnt want my parents to see my kids id be pissed as hell if the court system forced me to let them."

If a grandparent has a pre-existing relationship with the child they are able to get court orders grandparent visitation.



I believe that is the case in most states.

AwkwardTurtle 34 kids; Syracuse, NY, United States 2085 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting ღ mj's mama:" I honestly don't know what his parents deal is. BD is on my side 100% with this and DOES NOT want his ... [snip!] ... texted me bitching about it! BD was staying there, they didn't have to do any watching or feeding or anything. I don't get it."


Who do they think is unfit? I am confused, unless they think you are bad parents why would they want that? Even then unless you are unfit I wouldnt worry.

AwkwardTurtle 34 kids; Syracuse, NY, United States 2085 posts
19th Nov '12

This is alot to read, but I suggest you read it OP. May come in handy to know your rights should anything get crazy.



http://fightcps.com/2010/04/09/what-to-do-if-child-protective-services-social-workers-are-investigating-you/

loser mom Due June 25; 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Oslo, ,, Norway 10969 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting BryarWoods:" Who do they think is unfit? I am confused, unless they think you are bad parents why would they want that? Even then unless you are unfit I wouldnt worry."


I think she's worried the court will give her child to the grandparents.



Amber + 2♡ 2 kids; Kansas 19316 posts
19th Nov '12
Quoting loser mom:" I think she's worried the court will give her child to the grandparents. "


To be honest, I'd rather my daughter go to the state than her grandparents.