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user banned Due July 3; 2 kids; Australia 14351 posts
20th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ryloonjimama:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs Somerhalder:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ryloonjimama:</b>" ... [snip!] ... year and then get into nursing. I don't want to be home for another 5 years. I just don't think my sanity could survive it!"</blockquote>



Oh is it?? I usually get induced 2 weeks early so if thats the case i will scrape in!!



Yeah i wanted to study midwifery in a couple of years but ended up pregnant, again! I would get so bored staying home forever

ThatsAlotaNuts Australia 2360 posts
20th Nov '12
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user banned 3 kids; Ontario 10942 posts
20th Nov '12

That kind of sounds close to our child tax benefits we get here.



We have chid tax benefits then we have baby bonus that you recieve till your child turns six yrs of age.



But its not for SAHM's it's for anyone who makes less then 35,000 a year.



And you only lose one of them when your child turns six, the extra $100.00 a month. Our school aged kids here go at 4 yrs old, but it stops at 6 yrs old.




I think personally that if you are a SAHM and you cant survive without getting assistance you should be going to work every day to care and support your children and yourself. Its no one elses job to feed and clothes the kids.



But here everyone is entitled to recieve those handouts even if you are higher income, just the amount is not the same. Like an example, my parents were making 300,000 a year and still got baby bonus for me and my brother, it was only $150.00 for the both of us, but they still got it.

user banned Minneapolis, Minnesota 612 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting ma ♥:" :!::!: Being a SAHM is a privilege, not a right!"


Tell that to the people on these boards! you will never win that on here people get all fired up when you suggest to them gee you shouldnt have kids if you can't afford to feed them lol

mamaluvsher4babies 36 kids; California 4230 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting TheNuge:" Excellent. Here if you have a foot problem you may be able to get the system to declare you disabled and eligible for years of governemnt support. it may be for the rest of your life. "



Thats some bullshit too! I am sorry. My mother has had 2 knee, neck and hand surgeries and she stil works. Please please do not get me started on the SSDI etc here..That needs to have a huge over haul!!

Layla-and-Faith 2 kids; Nova Scotia 656 posts
20th Nov '12

Yes, of course they should have to work. Staying home is a luxerie not a right. Let me get his straight, while the child is in school.. mom still gets paid to do pretty much nothing? no way, lol

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
20th Nov '12

I think this is exactly what happens when government over extends itself.



I guess it's running out of money?



Besides, the government subsidzing your income because you've had a baby (aside what you, yourself have paid into any kind of maternity leave) is ludicrous.



Can't afford that baby? Don't have one. Sorry.

Ryloonjimama Australia 18851 posts
20th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Coupon Lady:</b>" That kind of sounds close to our child tax benefits we get here. We have chid tax benefits then we have ... [snip!] ... 300,000 a year and still got baby bonus for me and my brother, it was only $150.00 for the both of us, but they still got it."</blockquote>




Everyone gets a family tax benefit here too based on income, it goes down the more you earn. I just pulled the figures down off the Internet and I'll try to explain as best I can.



There are 2 parts to it; part A, can earn $47000 (per family or single) a year, then it gets reduced. I believe it's something like $100,000 is when you aren't eligible for that one. Part B, the primary earner can earn $150,000 a year before you are eligible for nothing.



Now the baby bonus has been $5000 for each child. They're just about to change it to $5000 first child, $3000 for subsequent children. People have been going nuts over that, too. Also, there is a paid parental leave scheme, you may be eligible for 18 weeks pay at minimum wage, if you earn less than $150,000. You can only claim one of them, but either way you get help.



So the parenting payment is totally different on TOP of all of that. That's a little tricky to explain.



http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/enablers/centrelink/parenting-payment/income-and-assets-tests



It's insane that people would complain about getting money for nothing but that's Australia for you.

Ryloonjimama Australia 18851 posts
20th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" I think this is exactly what happens when government over extends itself. I guess it's running out of ... [snip!] ... what you, yourself have paid into any kind of maternity leave) is ludicrous. Can't afford that baby? Don't have one. Sorry."</blockquote>




You know what's crazy, is the baby bonus was announced to boost population.... I can't remember how long it's been going. So there were and are still a lot of teen pregnancies as a result, other people just having babies to stay on benefits. People see a lump sum and get the bling $$ in their eyes... they don't think about the big picture, the cost of raising the child for the next 18 years.



I don't think the government actually thought it through. lol.

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
20th Nov '12

Staying at home is a privilege, not a right. If you can't afford a sahp without government assistance, then you need to work.



Australians are super spoiled.

ThatsAlotaNuts Australia 2360 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting Ryloonjimama:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" I think this is exactly what happens ... [snip!] ... picture, the cost of raising the child for the next 18 years. I don't think the government actually thought it through. lol."


i think its stupid to say people get pregnant for the baby bonus, yes they probably did when the government was giving it in lump sums (i had a friend complain that they dont do it in lump sums anymore cos she wanted to buy a car) i couldnt care less how much it is, i dont need it but it is pretty helpful to stock up on nappies, formula ect.

Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42788 posts
20th Nov '12

Uh...yeah. There's no reason to stay home when your kids are in school if you can't afford it by yourself.



You guys are lucky to get 6 years though, damn.

ma ♥ 1 child; California 63053 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting Mrs Somerhalder:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ryloonjimama:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting The (super ... [snip!] ... (though the cut in the baby bonus annoyed me at first lol) But what is there to do at home anyway when ur kids are at school?!"


They give you money for having a baby? :shock:




Oh how I am SO GLAD they don't do that here. You know how over populated the united states would be? OMG. :lol:

ma ♥ 1 child; California 63053 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting FroggysMommy:" You shouldn't be basically paid to stay at home. That being said... if I work too much I lose our ... [snip!] ... them too because some of those families really would be better off to stay at home and not work. The system needs to be fixed."


I agree with you, I believe everybody should get some sort of BASIC medical care, dentistry included.



I work a full time job & I make too much to qualify for medi-cal (medicaid). My tooth has been annoying me for the past few months but I just can't see spending over 400 to see a dentist right now. It just sucks not having any dental coverage. You would think my job would offer some sort of dental coverage, especially considering I WORK for the government. SMH oh the irony.

ma ♥ 1 child; California 63053 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting Susan Schultz:" Tell that to the people on these boards! you will never win that on here people get all fired up when you suggest to them gee you shouldnt have kids if you can't afford to feed them lol"


I understand not being able to feed them if both parents are trying their hardest & just having a hard time getting by (especially since the cost of living in my state is outrageous), but I just don't understand when people act like they should get to stay home while somebody else besides their spouse pays all their bills. Oh how unrealistic that is.