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Jasmine❤️ (32 weeks) Due October 15 (girl); 2 kids; Fullerton, CA, United States 1797 posts
20th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting SpaceCowgirl:</b>" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJimLZRC9N8 ^ Video of Obama being asked why he'd raise capital gains ... [snip!] ... rich people out of your system? Will that help you sleep better at night if you know you're sticking it to the rich guys?"</blockquote>




The only thing i agree with is getting rid of the bush tax cuts for the rich. We tried it, it failed. Lowering them as low as bush has, has not created economic growth. I would rather us go back to the clinton tax code because it actually worked, everyone paid their fair share and we had a surplus. I dont know why you feel that because I said i dont like the bush tax cut that i want to punish rich people. Everyone needs to contribute.

Jasmine❤️ (32 weeks) Due October 15 (girl); 2 kids; Fullerton, CA, United States 1797 posts
20th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting SpaceCowgirl:</b>" No, you went on some tirade about Bush tax cuts. I'm asking you a VERY simple question. Why would you want to raise taxes if it lowers revenue? Try thinking critically."</blockquote>




I dont want to raise taxes i want to get rid of tax cuts for very wealthy. What do you not get? Brick wall

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting M&D's Momma:" <blockquote><b>Quoting SpaceCowgirl:</b>" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJimLZRC9N8 ... [snip!] ... why you feel that because I said i dont like the bush tax cut that i want to punish rich people. Everyone needs to contribute."


The facts don't seem to support your conclusion.



GDP Growth after Bush tax cuts:
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Income for the lowest 80% of households increased:
incomeperearner-2.pngFederal government ended up getting MORE money when Bush cut taxes:
richpay-2.jpgUh oh, Bush's tax cuts actually shifted the burden of taxes MORE towards the rich than before:
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SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting M&D's Momma:" <blockquote><b>Quoting SpaceCowgirl:</b>" No, you went on some tirade about Bush tax ... [snip!] ... I dont want to raise taxes i want to get rid of tax cuts for very wealthy. What do you not get? Brick wall"


One of the Bush tax cuts was a reduction in capital gains taxes, that's why I'm talking about it. That's one of the taxes that will go up if the Bush tax cuts expire. If history is any indicator, this will result in LESS revenue to the federal government.



I don't think you even understand what you're arguing.

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
20th Nov '12

Did you know that retirement pensions are considered capital gains? They are recommending not retiring for four years if you can help it now.



Oh, and before anyone says I'm a Republican, I'm not. I'm a through and through libertarian and I want fiscal responsibility. I want them top cut most of your entitlement benefits. I also want a 0% income tax. Fair tax is the only thing I would ever support, maybe flat tax, but only as a last resort.

Jasmine❤️ (32 weeks) Due October 15 (girl); 2 kids; Fullerton, CA, United States 1797 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" The facts don't seem to support your conclusion. GDP Growth after Bush tax cuts: Income for the ... [snip!] ... MORE money when Bush cut taxes: Uh oh, Bush's tax cuts actually shifted the burden of taxes MORE towards the rich than before: "


Guess when you were googling shit you forgot these huh?
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Jasmine❤️ (32 weeks) Due October 15 (girl); 2 kids; Fullerton, CA, United States 1797 posts
20th Nov '12

It's been nice, really. Actually pure comedy. SO's finally home from work so I'm off for the night!:D

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting M&D's Momma:" Guess when you were googling shit you forgot these huh? "


Hmmm...trust the graphs based on history (aka facts) or trust the graphs on what someone thinks will happen in the future?



:lol:

SpaceCowgirl Due December 21; 3 kids; Oregon 20240 posts
20th Nov '12

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See guys? Since Obama was re-elected, all our unicorn problems will go away!

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
20th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting M&D's Momma:</b>" Guess when you were googling shit you forgot these huh? "</blockquote>




Did you forget the fact that Obama has added $10 trillion to our debt in three years? Your graphs are outdated.



Also, what do you think about the time that we had a surplus, had just finished a war, and had ZERO income tax?

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23057 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting M&D's Momma:" <blockquote><b>Quoting SpaceCowgirl:</b>" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJimLZRC9N8 ... [snip!] ... why you feel that because I said i dont like the bush tax cut that i want to punish rich people. Everyone needs to contribute."


Everyone needs to contribute? What do you think is a rich persons fair share?
If Person X and Person Y are doing the same job and getting the same pay but one has a spouse that is having an awesome year and is making $250k, why should the spouse of the higher earner be penalized?

also, is it a tax cut if I've been paying that rate for many, many years and the rate goes up?

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23057 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting M&D's Momma:" <blockquote><b>Quoting SpaceCowgirl:</b>" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJimLZRC9N8 ... [snip!] ... why you feel that because I said i dont like the bush tax cut that i want to punish rich people. Everyone needs to contribute."


also, i need to point out that the Bush rates DID create lots and lots of jobs. The economy during Bush was good for a very long time with very low unemployment rate. Jobs arent being created now as there is tremendous uncertainty and employers dont know what their costs will be.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23057 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting M&D's Momma:" <blockquote><b>Quoting SpaceCowgirl:</b>" No, you went on some tirade about Bush tax ... [snip!] ... I dont want to raise taxes i want to get rid of tax cuts for very wealthy. What do you not get? Brick wall"


If Bob pays federal taxes of x% up unil Monday and on Tuesday Bob pays federal taxes of x+4%, did Bob get a tax cut, a tax increase or no change?

Jasmine❤️ (32 weeks) Due October 15 (girl); 2 kids; Fullerton, CA, United States 1797 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" Hmmm...trust the graphs based on history (aka facts) or trust the graphs on what someone thinks will happen in the future? :lol:"


So employers can't hire based off what they project will happen onces OBAMACARE, but no one else can make projections. RIIIIGGGHHHTTTT!

Jasmine❤️ (32 weeks) Due October 15 (girl); 2 kids; Fullerton, CA, United States 1797 posts
20th Nov '12
Quoting SpaceCowgirl:" See guys? Since Obama was re-elected, all our unicorn problems will go away!"


yayyyyyyy!