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Schools teaching evolution. MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
23rd Nov '12

Should school be allowed to choose whether or not they want to teach it at all, compared to teaching nothing or creationism? Do you think parents should be able to pull their children out of classes that teach it and not fail?

lolajessup Due July 25; 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44057 posts
23rd Nov '12

I think if u want your child to learn about creationism you take them to a parochial school or talk about it at home. I believe both are true. How do we know Adam and eve were not monkey looking? How do we know that god did not create the world through a big bang?

Boots+3 3 kids; Alberta 328 posts
23rd Nov '12
Quoting MysticWitchKat:" Should school be allowed to choose whether or not they want to teach it at all, compared to teaching ... [snip!] ... nothing or creationism? Do you think parents should be able to pull their children out of classes that teach it and not fail?"


Absolutely.



OR the teacher's need to be willing to deal with kids who do not feel the same way. As in, allowing kids to write a paper disproving evolution if they don't want to prove it, and actually giving decent marks on it.



This happened to me in high school. My high school bio teacher did allow us to write disproving evolution if we wanted to. But, because he didn't agree with the position of creationism, gave crap marks to anyone who did.



You cannot tell me that my 14 page, thoroughly researched paper on creationism deserved a 62%, while the two page report with no actual scientific basis that one of the guys handed in deserved a 95%.



If you are going to teach theories such as evolution and creationism in a public school setting, there are two things that must happen. For one thing, the students themselves need to be allowed to express their opinions within the classroom, without fear of being mocked or marked down by the teachers. This didn't exist in that classroom. Secondly, the teachers need to be professionals, and put aside their personal opinions, and base any gradings of debates between creation and evolution, or any expressions of these two theories, with no bias whatsoever. That is the only way schools should be allowed to teach creation and evolution, as two theories.



Because while creation is often presented as a theory, evolution is all too often presented as a fact, depending on the personal bias of a teacher.

Mama2B&M 19 kids; Clovis, California 293 posts
23rd Nov '12

My children are 8 and 9 and have already learned about this stuff. y son was the only one who questioned it. I simply told him, that is what some people choose to believe. He also knows about other religions, and ways of accepting our own religion. He says he chooses our faith. I think its good to just talk about it, but also let them learn about it.

Sarah ♥ K&K 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Oceanside, CA, United States 112351 posts
23rd Nov '12

I personally wouldnt pull my child out of a school that teaches evolution as I believe in it but I know some households do not <weird> anywhoo I dont think they should be failed either though if they are pulled out, they could write a paper on creationism or something along those lines so they are still learning and getting in work

mɑkɑnɑni USA, FL, United States 62784 posts
status 23rd Nov '12

I think it should be optional.

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
23rd Nov '12
Quoting Boots+3:" Absolutely. OR the teacher's need to be willing to deal with kids who do not feel the same way. As ... [snip!] ... is often presented as a theory, evolution is all too often presented as a fact, depending on the personal bias of a teacher."


Creationism is a general theory however, evolution is a scientific one. Also there is a chance that the school district forced the teacher to give the choice.

Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
23rd Nov '12

I think if you want your kid to learn creationism, you should send them to a private school that teaches such.

lolajessup Due July 25; 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44057 posts
23rd Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting MysticWitchKat:</b>" Creationism is a general theory however, evolution is a scientific one. Also there is a chance that the school district forced the teacher to give the choice."</blockquote>




Really. Don't see the problem with exposure to both and doing it only in scientific terms. Stating why each side feels the way they do and the contradictions and similarities Of each.

Boots+3 3 kids; Alberta 328 posts
23rd Nov '12
Quoting MysticWitchKat:" Creationism is a general theory however, evolution is a scientific one. Also there is a chance that the school district forced the teacher to give the choice."


Evolution is not a scientific theory, though. No more than creationism is...Evolution ultimately contradicts itself, because something cannot come out of nothing. Even for evolution to be possible, something would have had to create whatever evolved into what we had today. It's basic logic.



Fact is, there's more scientific evidence for creationism than there is for evolutionism, if you are willing to do the work into researching it.



I agree with the poster behind me...Teach both in only scientific terms if you are not looking to be biased.

mɑkɑnɑni USA, FL, United States 62784 posts
status 23rd Nov '12
Quoting MysticWitchKat:" Creationism is a general theory however, evolution is a scientific one. Also there is a chance that the school district forced the teacher to give the choice."


Evolution is a theory as well...

Donna Jo Tanner 1 child; Beach Haven, New Jersey 6440 posts
23rd Nov '12

Eh, I believe creationism but my kids learn evolution, doesn't bother me. I personally think parents who care that much about it are crazy. You can teach them your beliefs at home and if they still choose to believe something else then not letting them learn it in school wouldn't have changed anything. I think they should teach all sides of how this world came to be, shows what facts they have on each different part and what the controversies are. They can't prove any of them 100% anyway.

I'm His Amy He's My Rory 2 kids; Caldwell, Idaho 49251 posts
23rd Nov '12

My high school taught evolution, but not like Darwinism evolution. It was more how species have evolved through survival of the fittest to have certain traits or like how people at higher elevations now have larger lungs for getting enough oxygen.

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
23rd Nov '12
Quoting sταrry skies:" Evolution is a theory as well..."


Obviously you did not read my thread.

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
23rd Nov '12
Quoting Boots+3:" Evolution is not a scientific theory, though. No more than creationism is...Evolution ultimately contradicts ... [snip!] ... researching it. I agree with the poster behind me...Teach both in only scientific terms if you are not looking to be biased."

You might want to talk to the scientific community then because they consider it one :-P