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Rafael's Mommy ♥ Texas 764 posts
25th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" "Deserve"? Women who work who've been at their jobs for less than a year don't get protected time off. ... [snip!] ... be different for a teen in school. It shouldn't be that hard to keep up with schoolwork while recovering from having a baby."</blockquote>




I think women at work should have that right as well. In fact I thought it was a law that they get maternity leave even if they've been working somewhere for less than a year.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
25th Nov '12
Quoting Rafael's Mommy ♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" "Deserve"? Women who work who've ... [snip!] ... well. In fact I thought it was a law that they get maternity leave even if they've been working somewhere for less than a year."


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.....




No.



There's FMLA: federal law affords women at least 6 weeks off of work protected IF you've been with your job for a year or more. Not paid leave, but protected. Meaning, you come back to work in the same or equal position with the same pay. Some states have other laws, like in California you are afforded 6 weeks off without pay. California also has parental leave if you have so many quarters of work in. But other states, like Ohio, has no such protection. After my son was born they were going to give me 2 weeks off (had worked there less than a year), and after that I wouldn't have a job anymore.



But point blank, here in America women don't get "deserved" time off for bonding with baby. Still have to worry about going back to work, paying bills with no salary, etc. Why should it be different for teens?



Mama♥Breezy 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Los Angeles, California 34988 posts
25th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Angel's Momma.:</b>" I am happy for you because i know many girl that got pregnant and dropped out! By the way, your children are cute. :)"</blockquote>




Thank you! :)

Rafael's Mommy ♥ Texas 764 posts
25th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA..... No. There's FMLA: federal law affords women at least ... [snip!] ... Still have to worry about going back to work, paying bills with no salary, etc. Why should it be different for teens? "</blockquote>




Just because some women aren't able to take time off because they need the money doesn't mean the option should be taken away from teens.

I'm His Amy He's My Rory 2 kids; Caldwell, Idaho 49338 posts
status 25th Nov '12

I went back to school 2 weeks after I got out of the hospital, and I had a csection. Don't see why a teenager couldn't. They want to be grown up enough to have a baby let them be expected to act like an adult. Not like they are doing anything major. Though I do agree for things Like PE and such their body should be allowed to heal first. To just sit in a desk though? No.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
25th Nov '12
Quoting Rafael's Mommy ♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA..... ... [snip!] ... some women aren't able to take time off because they need the money doesn't mean the option should be taken away from teens."


It's something ALL women have to think about unless they're SAHM's. Honestly, teenagers in high school shouldn't be having children to begin with, so why should it be an option for them? I get that it happens, but if they want to be grown and have a child, they get to deal with all the adult concequences that come with it including dealing with not having maternity leave. I mean, come on it's HIGH SCHOOL for pete's sake. It shouldn't be that hard to keep up with the school work and a baby. Women do it every day, work, school, children. Even with a csection, barring complications 2 weeks later it's completely feasible for a person to go to school and sit at a desk all day.

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 22946 posts
25th Nov '12

I don't know I feel like they should but they should be required to do home study for those six weeks. Where they have a tutor come and teach them or the teachers give them work to do at home that they have to turn in every week. Or give the teenagers two weeks off. Even with two weeks they may be falling behind work. I know with the classes I took if I took two weeks off I would have been behind.

Squid Kid Unavailable, NA, United States 32450 posts
25th Nov '12
Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:" It's something ALL women have to think about unless they're SAHM's. Honestly, teenagers in high school ... [snip!] ... csection, barring complications 2 weeks later it's completely feasible for a person to go to school and sit at a desk all day."


and newborns sleep all the damn time. Plenty of time to do school work.

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
26th Nov '12

I am baffled by those who think newborns are a breeze & that school is so easy. You all must have taken blow off classes. I always had several hours every day of homework on top of whatever class time I had. It wasn't exactly easy.



And I get it - they're teens & it isn't socially acceptable to be nice to a teenager who "messed up" and actually *try* to help her - but whatever. I think we should find a better way than saying she has to do it because "real women" do it. Whatever. We treat "real women" like poop post partum in this country. I guess I figured we *might* have the decency to maybe START by protecting minors first since they are the ones most likely to struggle, most likely to be in poverty & then everyone suffers. So I suppose I think we should find a way to help young moms finish their schooling while not trying to punish them for what we think they did wrong. I find requiring them to be back in a classroom at 2 weeks as the ONLY option sick frankly.



I am far from having a dog in this fight - I was 32 when I had my 1st & well set up to deal with it - but the fact is, NO ONE benefits from separating a newborn from mom at 2 weeks old...no one - so there is no sense in doing it.

I'm His Amy He's My Rory 2 kids; Caldwell, Idaho 49338 posts
status 26th Nov '12
Quoting justanothamotha:" I am baffled by those who think newborns are a breeze & that school is so easy. You all must have ... [snip!] ... but the fact is, NO ONE benefits from separating a newborn from mom at 2 weeks old...no one - so there is no sense in doing it."


"So I suppose I think we should find a way to help young moms finish their schooling while not trying to punish them for what we think they did wrong."



This perspective is EXACTLY what is wrong with children of today's society. People like you think they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. I find THAT disgusting.

Tig Ol' Bitties 2 kids; St Catharines, Ontario 3309 posts
26th Nov '12
Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:" "So I suppose I think we should find a way to help young moms finish their schooling while not trying ... [snip!] ... of today's society. People like you think they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. I find THAT disgusting. "


You can get punished for what you did wrong without paying for a teenage encouter with stipulations that result in difficulty bonding to your new baby.



I get it, the states kind of blows when it comes to mat leave, but that doesn't mean it is right. There are crucial times to establish breastfeeding and bond to a primary caregiver. Forcing a teenager to sit in science class doesn't just "punish" the teen, it robs the baby of a solid connection to their mother.



I think that we need to make the mental health of these already vunerable young mothers a priority instead of sitting back and going "Well, I guess you should have kept your legs closed"



♀NoBoysAllowed 19 kids; San Diego, California 51862 posts
26th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA..... No. There's FMLA: federal law affords women at least ... [snip!] ... Still have to worry about going back to work, paying bills with no salary, etc. Why should it be different for teens? "</blockquote>




That doesn't change the fact that all women SHOULD be given some time off after having a child, teen or not.

I'm His Amy He's My Rory 2 kids; Caldwell, Idaho 49338 posts
status 26th Nov '12
Quoting ♀NoBoysAllowed:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA..... ... [snip!] ... That doesn't change the fact that all women SHOULD be given some time off after having a child, teen or not."


I agree. I just don't understand why it's always the teens people are trying to get better or special treatment for. Why are they more worthy than any other woman. They use it all the time as an excuse trying to get more praise/attention. And it gets frustrating. What makes a 15 year old better than me at 28? We both had kids. We both need to do the same things. So why do they deserve so much better than me? They make it without killing their kid (exaggeration) and they're world's best mom, but a mother my age, god forbid would like a little appreciation for the hard work she's done caring for her child and family, because she'll get told to suck it up. Where as a teen gets "OH YOU'RE SO AMAZING! YOU'VE DONE SO WELL!!" and gets crap handed to them.

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 22946 posts
26th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:</b>" I agree. I just don't understand why it's always the teens people are trying to get better or special ... [snip!] ... she'll get told to suck it up. Where as a teen gets "OH YOU'RE SO AMAZING! YOU'VE DONE SO WELL!!" and gets crap handed to them."</blockquote>




I think every mother should be given 6 weeks at least off of work

empire state of mind New York, New York 12208 posts
26th Nov '12

I think as long as they're doing schoolwork at home then they should get the full 6 weeks.