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Not tellin 3 kids; Montana 55983 posts
4th Dec '12
Quoting MX23:" WTF is that for? at least i have a f**king job. im staying with my gf. im trying to do the right thing. ... [snip!] ... to do the right thing. i may have fucked up but who hasnt? i bet im in a better postion than alot of other teens having kids."


I didn't!!!! I didn't have a child in high school. Matter of fact, I didn't have one until I had been out of college for about 6 years and married 3. It doesn't pay to run around with blind folds on. You aren't invinceable. Your mommy and daddy shouldn't be bailing you out. You don't have a job on your own merrit, they "gave" it to you. The only thing that MIGHT make you in a better position is that your parents are footing a large portion of the bill. It certainly isn't you.

Not tellin 3 kids; Montana 55983 posts
4th Dec '12
Quoting *Zander's mommy*:" i dont think they should be allowed, but i dont think they should be taken away. in high school i was ... [snip!] ... get it back that day and i was babysitting my niece after school so i had no phone for emergencies. my mom was pretty pissed."


Hopefully it was you that she was pissed at for breaking the rules and not the policy.



The thing is that if YOU break the rules YOU have to expect consequences.



(all proverbial "you's)

MX23 Japan 674 posts
4th Dec '12
Quoting Not tellin:" So you are basically the gopher boy. that is still not a "real" job. You are a fool. Then again, we will revisit this conversation when you grow up."


well i make more money than a burger flipper and will actually have a different position if i go to college.

MX23 Japan 674 posts
4th Dec '12
Quoting Not tellin:" I didn't!!!! I didn't have a child in high school. Matter of fact, I didn't have one until I had been ... [snip!] ... that MIGHT make you in a better position is that your parents are footing a large portion of the bill. It certainly isn't you."


good 4 u. not every1 is perfect :roll:



i said i fucked up. i realize that.would u rather i just tell my gf to f**k off and never call me again then she can go on welfare.



im not sure whats wrong with my job. so what if they gave it to me and they will help me with the baby but whats wrong with that.

Not tellin 3 kids; Montana 55983 posts
4th Dec '12
Quoting MX23:" well i make more money than a burger flipper and will actually have a different position if i go to college. "



Pretty big IF there isn't it Jr?



Honestly, I know a few "burger flippers" that make very good money. especially in ND right now. You don't get the right to degrade someone who gets a job on their own merrit. Those people making your lunch earned their job via application and interview. Not because mommy and daddy gave it to them. Remember that!

Not tellin 3 kids; Montana 55983 posts
4th Dec '12
Quoting MX23:" good 4 u. not every1 is perfect :roll: i said i fucked up. i realize that.would u rather i just tell ... [snip!] ... not sure whats wrong with my job. so what if they gave it to me and they will help me with the baby but whats wrong with that."


Weren't you posing about not wanting it in the first place? Now you are a hero? Ok!



There isn't anything wrong with your job. What's wrong is you. You have a self entitled spoiled brat attitude and really, I am not sure someone like you fully grasps what you are stepping into. How would you make it if your parents weren't bailing you out? What would you do? Could you get a job on your own merrit? Could you actually pay your own way? Could you pay for this baby and get an education? This isn't a "fucked up". This is OH SHIT! I have to GROW UP! There is a baby on the way who didn't ask to be here. This child is going to be born simply because you "fucked up". Pretty much, you better figure out how to grow up and lose the spoiled brat syndrome really fast! Do you want your child to think that they are nothing but an inconvience and a mistake?



Just remember that every job is an honest job and degrading someone because you don't think they make as much $$ as you only speaks volumes on your character. Not theirs. Those people are working to make an honest living and many of those "burger flippers" are actually college educated. The economy is so bad that a degree doesn't gurantee a job right now. You aren't above anyone especially if you aren't making it on your own.



As I said before, you have a lot of growing up to do. You might notice that your Girlfriend is already starting to change and she will be much different of a person long before you "get it". That is because at this moment, the reality and gravity of the situation is hitting her. She knows what she is up against and could really use you to grow up with her. Arguing that you should be allowed to send whatever text you want from your phone in class and not have it taken away (even thou it is the rules) only shows that you are still very much child in mind. Don't be too offended. My husband is over 30 and still acts like a child from time to time. It is natural for a male I guess. Just remind yourself that you aren't better than the next person, rules are in place for a reason, and you never know it all. I am over 30 myself and still learning daily. I learn from those who have "been there done that". It would behoove you to do the same.

MX23 Japan 674 posts
5th Dec '12
Quoting Not tellin:" Pretty big IF there isn't it Jr? Honestly, I know a few "burger flippers" that make very good money. ... [snip!] ... making your lunch earned their job via application and interview. Not because mommy and daddy gave it to them. Remember that!"


well i didnt mean it like if i go cuz i do wanna go. i never degrade someones job. in fact you were the one that mentioned it and degrade them NOT ME. you brought it up.

MX23 Japan 674 posts
5th Dec '12
Quoting Not tellin:" Weren't you posing about not wanting it in the first place? Now you are a hero? Ok! There isn't anything ... [snip!] ... 30 myself and still learning daily. I learn from those who have "been there done that". It would behoove you to do the same. "


yes i did post that i didnt want. am i not allowed to change my mind. i was scared and didnt know what to do.



im not a spoiled brat. im not sure how my parents giving me a job makes you think that. well maybe its both like a oh shit i fucked up thing. but how many people my age plan to have kids. i bet hardly any so they all have the same feelings as me. you arent and never were in my shoes so how can you tell me how to feel. and no i dont want the kid to know it was a mistake but it might figure it out eventually. doesnt mean i wont take care of it or love it less tho. again i am gonna do my best.



again i didnt degrade any1. you did actually. might want to look back at your own posts.



my gf is going to school to be nurse when she is done with hs. she said she still plans to do that.



where never gonna agree on the txting thing it seems. you make it sound like im sending txts during the entire class. i might send 1 or 2. its not a big deal or a disrpution. i never said i am a know it all.

Not tellin 3 kids; Montana 55983 posts
5th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting MX23:</b>" yes i did post that i didnt want. am i not allowed to change my mind. i was scared and didnt know what ... [snip!] ... sending txts during the entire class. i might send 1 or 2. its not a big deal or a disrpution. i never said i am a know it all."</blockquote>




Lol! It is true, while you are in school you won't have a real job. You can't pull 40hrs a week and get benefits. Like it or not, reality.



You don't have to say the words "I'm a know it all", it is pretty clear thru your verbiage.



Most guys don't want kids at this age but plenty of girls do and they do it on purpose. Not implying that is your case, just saying your argument is invalid on that part.



Let me explain this one more time, if it is against the rules, it is against the rules. It doesn't matter if you like or agree with them. You are to follow them. This is the teen know it all mentality I have talked about. Sounds like your mommy and daddy should have been a little more strict with you and enforced more rules. Perhaps if they did, you would have a better understanding of the process and you just might not have a pregnant girlfriend at 17!

MX23 Japan 674 posts
5th Dec '12
Quoting Not tellin:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MX23:</b>" yes i did post that i didnt want. am i not allowed ... [snip!] ... if they did, you would have a better understanding of the process and you just might not have a pregnant girlfriend at 17!"


true. i dont work 40 hrs and cant with school



well lots of teens dont want to have a baby. if they did they would all be pregnant.



i have plenty of rules and was punished for not following them. i am grounded for a month now for skipping school last week. my gf being pregnant has nothing to do with my parents or following rules. it was an accident. me not following the rules had nothing to do with that.

Not tellin 3 kids; Montana 55983 posts
7th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting MX23:</b>" true. i dont work 40 hrs and cant with school well lots of teens dont want to have a baby. if they ... [snip!] ... nothing to do with my parents or following rules. it was an accident. me not following the rules had nothing to do with that. "</blockquote>




Lol!! You following the rules has EVERYTHING to do with it!!! I am pretty sure that you didn't just have sex unprotected with your parents blessing. I am also pretty sure that there were rules broke to have sex on the first place c



Interesting, you are old enough to play adult games and yet you are still getting grounded. Have you put this together yet?

MX23 Japan 674 posts
7th Dec '12
Quoting Not tellin:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MX23:</b>" true. i dont work 40 hrs and cant with school well ... [snip!] ... c Interesting, you are old enough to play adult games and yet you are still getting grounded. Have you put this together yet?"


obviosly my parents didnt want me to have unprotected sex and werent happy that i got her pregnant but they are being supportive and not leaving me alone to deal with it. maybe some rules were broken sometimes but not all the time.



have you seriously never broken any rules? i really doubt that. how about your kids? do they do everything you say and not brake any rules? i doubt it.



i was grounded for skipping school. not getting her pregnant.

Not tellin 3 kids; Montana 55983 posts
7th Dec '12
Quoting MX23:" obviosly my parents didnt want me to have unprotected sex and werent happy that i got her pregnant but ... [snip!] ... they do everything you say and not brake any rules? i doubt it. i was grounded for skipping school. not getting her pregnant."



I didn't say you were grounded for getting her pregnant. I made a very clear statement that you broke rules that resulted in her getting pregnant.



My kids are 4 and 2. What rules do they really have to break?



I have and I am not claiming to have been perfect. I broke rules but none that are that serious to cause life altering events.

MX23 Japan 674 posts
7th Dec '12

Quoting Not tellin:" I didn't say you were grounded for getting her pregnant. I made a very clear statement that you broke ... [snip!] ... I have and I am not claiming to have been perfect. I broke rules but none that are that serious to cause life altering events. "well you said



Interesting, you are old enough to play adult games and yet you are still getting grounded. Have you put this together yet?



so i thought you were saying i got grounded cuz of it. I guess i dont get what you are saying.



well when they are older im sure they will break rules. especially when they are in high school.



well just cuz i broke a rule which i still dont think breaking a rule caused her to get pregnant but besides that it doesnt mean im gonna be a bad parent and not be there. im gonna do what i have to since i fucked up. i always thought you learn from your mistakes and accept responsabilities

Not tellin 3 kids; Montana 55983 posts
7th Dec '12
Quoting MX23:" Quoting Not tellin:" I didn't say you were grounded for getting her pregnant. I made a very clear statement ... [snip!] ... there. im gonna do what i have to since i fucked up. i always thought you learn from your mistakes and accept responsabilities"


The point is that you are making childish decisions when you clearly thought that you were old enough to play an adult game. You are going to be a father soon. That means you should start getting your butt in gear and start acting like an adult. Adults don't argue why they can't have a cell phone in their class. Adults don't skip school. Adults don't surf the net or text while they are supposed to be in class. You aren't just responsible for you anymore.




They might. Who knows. That is only something to be determined by the future. If I do my job right as a parent, I don't have to worry about them breaking too many rules. I will likely only have to worry about minimal ones. Not ones that impact their futures.



It did. You can't deny it to any degree. If you were sneaking around (as teens do, I was one once myself) to have sex, that is breaking a rule. Her getting pregnant is a direct result of that action and the lack of proper planning.



I never said you were going to be a bad dad. I am simply telling you that you need to GROW UP! Look outside the relm of being a teen. Those days are gone for you. It is time that you shape up, stop skipping class, follow the rules by putting down your phone and paying attention and remember that you aren't the only person to be affected by your choices both good and bad.