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Raωkeℓ 1 child; Costa Rica 8257 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting ★Bαtgirl:" Just because you don't believe in the way the religion is NOW does not mean you don't believe in parts ... [snip!] ... in parts of the religion when you worship their Deity... It's like Paradigm Shift said... "I hate dairy but I LOVE cheese!""


I'm not trying to say it doesn't make sense. I'm saying I know people that are like this.

loser mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Oslo, ,, Norway 10902 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting ★Bαtgirl:" :? WTF. You can't be all "I love God" but then say "But I'm not any religion!" Those two really don't go hand in hand... "


I would have to disagree. A person can be spiritual, but not religious.

Lucid Dreamer Florida 3829 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting Raωkeℓ:" Eh, not always true. I know some people that don't believe in organized religion but do believe in God."

Thank you for mentioning that. Spirituality and religion are not really the same thing and there are many on this earth who don't follow religion buit still believe in God.

I'm His Amy He's My Rory 2 kids; Caldwell, Idaho 49279 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting Raωkeℓ:" Eh, not always true. I know some people that don't believe in organized religion but do believe in God."



Agnostics.

Leisurely Duchess 1 child; Monterey, California 25884 posts
28th Nov '12

Where are my handy dandy Galatians 3 verses ...




Ah yes, here they are!



23 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.


26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham

Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting Smartass *TTC*:" Maybe I can go join JesusRocks.com and talk about my kid =)"



Hahahaha, lets do it!!



Kidding. I can't fathom believing in any of that.

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:" Agnostics."



Nope. Agnostics aren't believers. Agnostic is "without knowledge" Agnostics don't profess to have knowledge of a God.

Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting Dr. Paradigm Shift:" Nope. Agnostics aren't believers. Agnostic is "without knowledge" Agnostics don't profess to have knowledge of a God."


That's what I thought!! I wasn't too sure on that when she posted.



It was always explained to me as someone who isn't athiest but doesn't believe in a god either and doesn't really care to find out.

Blank™ Beverly Hills, CA, United States 5264 posts
28th Nov '12

I know God loves everyone.




As a Christian woman who attends church every Sunday, we've never discussed the "God doesn't love gays" nor do we even bring up people's sexual orientation. Not all churches are against gays and lesbians....and it sucks some churches ruin it all for the ones trying to do good.

loser mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Oslo, ,, Norway 10902 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting ★Bαtgirl:" If you believe in the deity, you believe in PARTS of the religion. Just because it's not what organized religion is today, it's still a part of religion. "


No...I don't believe they're allowed to pick and choose which parts they want to follow.



I was speaking for myself really. I would consider myself spiritual (to a certain degree), but I definitely do not follow or belong to any religion.

Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting Mommeee
Leisurely Duchess 1 child; Monterey, California 25884 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting loser mom:" I would have to disagree. A person can be spiritual, but not religious."


There is a difference between religion and spirituality. Believing in a personal god automatically falls on the religion side, because theism is inherently religious and can never be disconnected from it without losing the very reason a personal god belief exists in the first place. Spiritualism is very different; for example, atheists can be spiritual.

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting Michael Westen:" That's what I thought!! I wasn't too sure on that when she posted. It was always explained to me as ... [snip!] ... always explained to me as someone who isn't athiest but doesn't believe in a god either and doesn't really care to find out."


Some say an agnostic is an atheist without the commitment.:lol: Most atheists will tell you they're agnostic atheists, but a lot of people don't understand what that means.



Nobody can ever KNOW for a FACT, so, we're all agnostic by default.

Lucid Dreamer Florida 3829 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:" -golf clap- Do you feel like you did your good deed for the day?"

Meaning what?

Leisurely Duchess 1 child; Monterey, California 25884 posts
28th Nov '12
Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:" Agnostics."


That doesn't help differentiate god believers from no god believers. Agnosticism is position about knowledge, not belief. It's complementary to the god beliefs, never a middle ground, that would be a category error fallacy.