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MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting kthx.:" No, it's because of something OP posted. Women were saying they cannot judge her, because they have ... [snip!] ... public eye is just as bad... they don't want to judge her/sentence her because they'll feel guilty, since they do what she did."


Which puts a burden on the fact it could be charged as such. You now have a measure of what a solid portion of parents do, so it's harder to argue with gross negligence. But you are correct there are times when people can get away with criminal acts based on the sympathy of the jury.

thisunrest India 10364 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting ~Ice Princess~:" It was negligent homicide. She neglected to keep him safe and he ultimately paid the price for it. ... [snip!] ... and he fell that's one thing. But to purposely place him on a ledge and let go? That's stupidity and she should serve time."


That's another thing that bugs me.Toddlers are top-heavy,why if she was taking the risk of him falling by placing him up there,would she let go?



Something else that bothers me..I think the only reason so many people have so much pity for her is because she was his mother.After reading through the responses I have a better idea about why she wasn't charged with manslaughter.
But if she had been his teacher or his nanny,pretty sure the legalities that might hold a prosecutor back wouldn't matter and they'd find SOME kind of why to hold her responsible.

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting Halley Nicole:" your f**king dumb get out of her seriously . your prly the only one that thinks like that... there has to be something wrong in ur head .. have you injured a child or something lol"



Um..pretty sure it was her OP. Telling her to leave is just stupid.

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting ~Ice Princess~:" WTF are you talking about? OP has been here a while... I don't remember seeing you..."

She thinks gay people are going to burn =X. Not the OP, the girl you are talking to.

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting MysticWitchKat:" You do realize you just proved my case with the bold correct? "improper use of reasonable care" would ... [snip!] ... charged in any state because it would not state a chance of winning a conviction, or better yet being upheld when challenged."

You can't say she would never be charged in any state. I seriously believe she would be charged here. I've seen parents be charged who were far less to blame.

thisunrest India 10364 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting ~Ice Princess~:" WTF are you talking about? OP has been here a while... I don't remember seeing you..."



Thank you.!

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting justanothamotha:" You can't say she would never be charged in any state. I seriously believe she would be charged here. I've seen parents be charged who were far less to blame."


Can I saw never with all certainty,no. But it's pretty unlikely that too many district attorneys would have the belief that the statue would apply in this case. It's not even likely a judge would find cause to procede to trial if they did.

thisunrest India 10364 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting MysticWitchKat:" She thinks gay people are going to burn =X. Not the OP, the girl you are talking to."


LOL! For a second there I was like,"HUH?". And then I finished reading.

~*Julie Blue Eyes*~ 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6245 posts
30th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Liam's Mama:</b>" It was an accident. I'm sure that woman knows she fucked up, and she'll have to pay for it the rest of her life."</blockquote>




This!!!!

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting Mama Rice:" <blockquote><b>Quoting thisunrest:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Halley Nicole:</b>" ... [snip!] ... not be?"</blockquote> People die in accidents everyday. I guarantee you that there are quite a few who are not charged."


Accidental death and negligent homicide are two very different things...

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting thisunrest:" <blockquote><b>Quoting kthx.:</b>" It doesn't take being a mother to know what safety ... [snip!] ... stuck in her and she had to pry him out with scissors and tore up her vagina pretty badly. And she's being charged as an adult."


Is that what they found out about that case???
I don't think she should have been charged though. She's a child, not an adult. How sad.

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting thisunrest:" LOL! For a second there I was like,"HUH?". And then I finished reading."


Yeah she was saying about how gay people will burn in hell yada yada yada 2nd samuel this yada yada yada.

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting ~Ice Princess~:" Is that what they found out about that case??? I don't think she should have been charged though. She's a child, not an adult. How sad."


Not to mention extremely emotionally unstable most likely.

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting Chelsea Dawns Mama:" Exactly. She may have broke Zoo rules, but where did she break the LAW? Yeah, again, terrible that it happened, but she didn't brek the LAW."


It's against the law to endanger your child or neglect them...

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting Chelsea Dawns Mama:" Said 14 yer old also hid her pregnancy for 9 months, gave her parents TWO fake - pregnancy tests, and ... [snip!] ... into the hospital the day baby was born and said she miscarried. That was NOT an accident, she knowingly murdered that child."



She's 14. Obviously she was scared to tell her parents.
If the baby got stuck and she tried to get it out by using scissors, I don't think she meant to kill it. She was probably in pain, freaking out and not thinking rationally. Which is what 14 year old children do.