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user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting Penises 3:Vaginas 1:" Everyone get's free insurance. I can't say, because I'm not fully educated on this, but I know that ... [snip!] ... companies will be around by then. There is speculation, that obamacare is going to run them out of business. :shrugs:. "


whats wrong with insurance now? you either get it, or get medicaid.... why did we have to change shit.. this is great


we are all fucked.

Vile Tramp 2 kids; New York 32363 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting ☮ Phuket:" whats wrong with insurance now? you either get it, or get medicaid.... why did we have to change shit.. this is great we are all fucked."



Because... I can't answer that lol.



I know some states are refuting obamacare, there is still hope. Some people just want the government to have MORE control over us I guess. This is why so many people are pissed Obama's still in office.

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
30th Nov '12

I'm confused. Did any of these babies have a chance of survival, or was this similar to terminally ill patients who have no chance of living and are going to die really soon?

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting ☮ Phuket:" whats wrong with insurance now? you either get it, or get medicaid.... why did we have to change shit.. this is great we are all fucked."


Medicaid is for the older citizens. You mean Medicare.



Some people can't afford private insurance (or are denied because of pre-existing conditions), but make too much to qualify for Medicare. Obamacare makes it so that everyone is insured and that these private insurance companies will STOP disqualifying people because of a pre-existing condition.



The people who are so against Obamacare forget that at one point Medicare received a HELL of a backlash, but now it is so ingrained in society. They also forget the millions that are without ANY medical coverage and the millions that were DENIED private insurance because of previous illnesses or did NOT qualify for Medicare because they made too much. What of them?

Mom.to.PoohBear 1 child; Michigan 2394 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting Back to Noob Status:" Medicaid is for the older citizens. You mean Medicare. Some people can't afford private insurance (or ... [snip!] ... private insurance because of previous illnesses or did NOT qualify for Medicare because they made too much. What of them?"

No, Medicare is for old people. Medicaid is for poor people.

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting Mom.to.PoohBear:" No, Medicare is for old people. Medicaid is for poor people. "


Ah! You are correct. My bad.

The Blissful Six 4 kids; 1 angel baby; Massachusetts 10260 posts
30th Nov '12

Horribly sad!

Trup.sebteri California 126 posts
30th Nov '12

:cry:
Well there went my happy thoughts for the day.

user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting Back to Noob Status:" I'm confused. Did any of these babies have a chance of survival, or was this similar to terminally ill patients who have no chance of living and are going to die really soon?"



i beleive they were sick, and premature babies adn things like that. and the doctors andparents sat and and "decided" it would be better to just not give them food or water because they were " gonna" die.
no one really really knows if your gonna die, miracles do happen

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting ☮ Phuket:" i beleive they were sick, and premature babies adn things like that. and the doctors andparents sat ... [snip!] ... not give them food or water because they were " gonna" die. no one really really knows if your gonna die, miracles do happen"


Oh wow. That is scary.



I want to work in NICU, and I have heard MANY stories of premies being born two, three months early and still coming out of the hospital strong, healthy and perfectly normal.

user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting Back to Noob Status:" Oh wow. That is scary. I want to work in NICU, and I have heard MANY stories of premies being born two, three months early and still coming out of the hospital strong, healthy and perfectly normal."


my sister was born 4 months early... and she is now 12.5 year old and super duper smart. she had ALOT of problems too, brain bleed, lung collapse, craniosynastosis (sp?)

Vile Tramp 2 kids; New York 32363 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting Back to Noob Status:" Medicaid is for the older citizens. You mean Medicare. Some people can't afford private insurance (or ... [snip!] ... private insurance because of previous illnesses or did NOT qualify for Medicare because they made too much. What of them?"


I understand about not being able to deny based on a pre existing condition, BUT, some people will not get insurance, pay the fine every year, and then when they NEED insurance, lets say they get told them have cancer, they will go get insurance draining the insurance company of MILLIONS, that they NEVER paid in.



Or what if they need an operation? They will hop on insurance, get the surgery, and then drop their insurance afterwards, driving up insurance costs. My husbands insurance this year went from 300 for an individual, to over 500 a MONTH. For ONE person. For a family? From 1,200 a month to 2,300... The insurance companies are ALREADY raising prices of premiums in anticipation of obamacare.

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
30th Nov '12

Welcome to our future. I'll not go as far as I told you so, but look at end of life care in the ACA. Death panels are real! England is doing it now and soon you will see it here.

user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
30th Nov '12
Quoting khigh:" Welcome to our future. I'll not go as far as I told you so, but look at end of life care in the ACA. Death panels are real! England is doing it now and soon you will see it here."


once obama is gone though we canmake shit go back to normal??

it cant be forever.... if obama can change it now, somone else can change it in the futre?

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
30th Nov '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" once obama is gone though we canmake shit go back to normal?? it cant be forever.... if obama can change it now, somone else can change it in the futre?"</blockquote>




It would be very, very hard because he gets to choose two new supreme court justices and they would likely say overturning it is unconstitutional.