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lolajessup Due July 25; 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44057 posts
3rd Dec '12

Sweetie I'm sorry that you were taught to feel bad about yourself and doubt your Christianity. But the key to Christianity is believing that god loves you and knows that we are all sinners. He is not out to condemn you to hell. You are his child and he created you special and the way you are for a reason. He knows earth is full of sins, that's why he sent Jesus here to die for our sins. What tht means is that he is a forgiving god who will always love you. His love is the only unconditional love we will ever find. I am nowhere near perfect and here I am having baby #2 unwed. I've slept with many men and sinned many times in many ways in my life. I do not Ever feel like god hates me or has given up on me. You're still on this earth for a reason. If you didn't have a purpose here he wouldn't keep you here. He does love you no matter how much wrong you feel you do. That's the joy of Christianity. We can ask god for our forgiveness. That's part of church ever week is confessing that we have sinned against god in thought word and deed. EVery one has. Nobody is perfect. Nobody is free from sin. That's what happens and god understands this. If you ever want to talk feel freeto contact me. I'm nowhere near perfect but I do know that god has a plan for us and will always forgive us no matter what we do.



I am reading a book with my fianc

MamaAkemi Due September 5; 1 child; 2 angel babies; Bowie, MD, United States 990 posts
3rd Dec '12

Some of the best "Christians" are sinners, because they know how to forgive and to be openminded. I believe that Jesus came to preach forgiveness and love and those are the teachings I try to follow. Because the Bible seems to contradict itself, I use it as a guide rather than follow it's laws. I know I am imperfect and do not know everything, so I use it in different ways. I go to the Bible when I am seeking comfort from God. The Bible is not literal to me, it is highly symbolic. I worry more about having a relationship with my God. I'm spiritual, not religious. Hell, you can say I follow my own religion. I believe some of the things the Jewish, Christians, and Buddhists believe. I work to seek peace of mind and try to become one with myself.



I do not follow the laws of Moses, I have sex and am unmarried. I cuss and get angry, but I do try to better myself. I love to celebrate Christmas and the holidays, even though some Christians do not. I sin and I see it is wrong and harmful to spread hate and unforgiveness. Love, forgiveness and acceptance of oneself and others is the true way of life, in my belief. I guess you can say I am not a Christan then. So what would you call me?

The Time Police 2 kids; Cold Lake, AB, Canada 33400 posts
3rd Dec '12
Quoting Minion:" Thank you. Some days like today I feel strongly that Christianity is all brainwashing."


If you're a good person, and it seems like it, then I'd honestly not worry.

Minion Due September 30; 2 kids; Toccoa, GA, United States 19993 posts
3rd Dec '12
Quoting MysticWitchKat:" First off they would have no grounds to seize your kids for a different religion lol. And second they would not go to your parents anyway."


Oh yeah I know that. But it was just awful to hear that several times a week over and over again. :(

greenmamabecky☮ TTC since Jul 2013; 18 kids; Enfield, Connecticut 20987 posts
3rd Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" It might be. I've always been interested in stuff like it. The main reason I left it was because I was ... [snip!] ... It was a huge mess. And then the thoughts that I was going to hell creeped in my head :( I was pretty happy while I was Pagan."</blockquote>




Christians are so hardheaded and judgemental :?
Do what will make you happy and your DH should stand by you.
DF is a Christian and I'm not religious or spiritual at all so we're being married by a justice of the peace and he's totally fine with it. I still go to church(Catholic) with my parents on Christmas Eve and Easter to make them happy.
I live by my own morals and I'm very happy. I'm a good person, a good mom, a good fiance, daughter, friend etc. You don't need a religion to live a good life.

kitermom 2 kids; Beaverton, Oregon 740 posts
3rd Dec '12

We have our daughter in christian preschool and she'll go to kindergarten next year. It is far more faith based than I would like but it's a great school. So now she's coming home believing in god. Our thing is that you can believe in what ever you'd like but you can never feel guilty. God or any other higher being does not create her moral compass but she does and she always has to look within to guide herself because she knows what she's doing right and wrong.



Sex is not about anything but you and your health. So if you're doing it safely and guarding yourself then you're fine.



Just always live you life the best you can.

greenmamabecky☮ TTC since Jul 2013; 18 kids; Enfield, Connecticut 20987 posts
3rd Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ॐ:</b>" there is so much fucked up shit and contradictions in religion, i don;t know how anyone can believe in ... [snip!] ... power to make good choices in life, all i need is common sense and to believe in myself. i hope some of this made sense.."</blockquote>



:!: all of this

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
3rd Dec '12
Quoting Minion:" Oh yeah I know that. But it was just awful to hear that several times a week over and over again. :("


Then they dont deserve to be in your love sweetie. You should not give up the religion you love just because other people don't like it. You sound as you were happy being a pagan, yet miserable as a christian. PM me sometime if you want to chat as I am a lifelong pagan :).

Minion Due September 30; 2 kids; Toccoa, GA, United States 19993 posts
3rd Dec '12
Quoting wombie:" The main reason I don't follow Christianity or many other religions is due to my inability to believe ... [snip!] ... many lives in this world until our spiritual selves are completely evolved. I have weirdo beliefs, I'm aware of that :lol:"


I don't really believe in a hell either. I also believe there is a spirit world on earth and that there are ghosts and stuff. I'm on the fence about reincarnation. Part of me thinks, "Yeah I can dig that" but the other part thinks, "Geez, isn't one lifetime enough?" Lol.

Crystallized Due February 24; 1 child; California 431 posts
3rd Dec '12

I'm recently Agnostic. Admittedly, the idea that I'm going to burn in hell because I choose to denounce organized religion still pops in my head from time to time. I was a Christian for 23 years. It was pounded into my head that I would go to hell if I stopped believing in the veracity of Christianity and the Bible. I figure it's normal to still have that irksome thought of "what if I'm wrong" when you've just started on the path "out" of religion.



My advice to you is to subtract fear from the equation. Fear is a horrible motivator. If Hell was never mentioned in the Bible in the first place, would you still believe in it? Would you still think that it's a logical book to hold yourself to morally?

wombie 4 kids; Zimbabwe 73281 posts
3rd Dec '12
Quoting Minion:" I don't really believe in a hell either. I also believe there is a spirit world on earth and that there ... [snip!] ... reincarnation. Part of me thinks, "Yeah I can dig that" but the other part thinks, "Geez, isn't one lifetime enough?" Lol."


:lol:

7 blessings so far.... Due February 3; 6 kids; Glen Burnie, Maryland 8799 posts
3rd Dec '12

christianty is supposed to be about having a personnal relationship w/our creator through his so Jesus......You dont have to ''change'' b4 u do that....Once u accepted the gift of salvation and really study Gods word you may decided you want to be a ''different'' you! for some believers the personnality changes seem to happen over night.....for others its a very gradual process and can take years. Just remember, God loves u the way you r now....its your love for him that should make you yearn to be a more ''christlike'' person.

Minion Due September 30; 2 kids; Toccoa, GA, United States 19993 posts
3rd Dec '12
Quoting Raωkeℓ:" I grew up Pentecostal for the first 18 years of my life. I think "will I ever go back?" and I'm like... ... [snip!] ... and I'll never go back. I know that I can never put THAT much faith into something that cannot be proven accurate. Good luck!"


Thank you.
I am so close to leaving again, but I don't want everyone to think I'm confused or wishy-washy.

lolajessup Due July 25; 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44057 posts
3rd Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting MamaAkemi:</b>" Some of the best "Christians" are sinners, because they know how to forgive and to be openminded. I believe ... [snip!] ... and others is the true way of life, in my belief. I guess you can say I am not a Christan then. So what would you call me?"</blockquote>



Just a correction the first word of your post should be ALL. All Christians, even te best ones, are sinners. That's why we ask for forgiveness. And I do agree the state in which you believe this comes from understanding forgiveness and how god does an will always forgive us.

Minion Due September 30; 2 kids; Toccoa, GA, United States 19993 posts
3rd Dec '12
Quoting lolajessup:" Sweetie I'm sorry that you were taught to feel bad about yourself and doubt your Christianity. But the ... [snip!] ... woman. If god can forgive him and the church can forgive him then I'm certain your sins can be forgiven as well. *hugs mama*"


Thank you. :)