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Circle K 1 child; 1 angel baby; Federal Way, WA, United States 9280 posts
status 8th Dec '12
Quoting Mother of 4 :):" That insurance companies won't cover circumcision anymore, unless it is medically needed. Why? It is ... [snip!] ... because people aren't doing it anymore. Why would people do that it is something that is needed. Has anyone else heard this?"


Please explain to me why it is needed? What is the outcome if a baby is not circumcised? What is the medical necessity?

Cordelia's Mom 33 kids; Bakersfield, California 3685 posts
8th Dec '12

I just read every page and WOW. I can't believe OP.
Sighhh
Don't even know what to say.

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
8th Dec '12
Quoting Mother of 4 :):" Some people find it nice to have a intact one, I find it weird, I don't find it gross, just that there ... [snip!] ... with peeing, and a year old she had to do because it was pinching the urinary tract closed. from the skin being to tight."

Is your Dr a pediatric urologist? pediatricians don't give toddlers & preschoolers circs. They just don't. NOT included in their training I would be a little concerned if she represented that she had in fact done them.



As far as 3 other Dr's telling you to pull it back - where I am from that's a common thing for Dr's to say...so I can't just "get another Dr" since the next Dr will same the same ignorant crap too. You probably live in a high circ rate area like I do & the Dr's just don't actually take the time to educate themselves on the normal healthy foreskin & what it should & shouldn't do & when & all of that. It really sucks because I have to play interference even on normal well checks just to keep someone from messing up my kid's p***s. You are absolutely wrong though if you think you can't find good info online I have several things I've printed out from medical sites I take with me to hand to ignorant Dr's on visits so they can read that they aren't up to date on their education & NO medical association recommend retracting young boys anymore. They all agree it is damaging to the tissue & is the most common culprit for issues that alter lead to circs. If what I am able to find through online research is good enough to change my Dr's mind (and it did) then clearly - it is not a load of rubbish on opinions. It's fact based stuff.



You may not mean to sound ignorant - but you do in fact sound very ignorant on the topic. When people say the skin is fused, they don't mean there will be no movement to the skin. That isn't "loose" any more than the skin on the scrotum is "loose" & not attached to the body. What they mean is, it is attached down the shaft & will not slide back to expose the p***s. THAT is what attached/fused means. When you say poop gets under it - it doesn't...ever. The same type of connective tissue that holds your nail to your nailbed holds the shaft skin to the shaft. That doesn't mean it is rigged. It is sort of how you can put a finger in the back of your other hand & skid slide the skin around, yet clearly your skin is still attached to your hand. Same idea. And as far as attache dliek your nails - it is like you saying you have to peel your nails off to get yourself clean...obviously - you clean dirt from around the nail, you don't pry up your fingernails to clean under them - same idea. When I change a poopy diaper I wash my hands after, I don't pry my nails of fin case any got down there. Same with my kid's p***s. The scrotum is harder to clean as I sometimes seem to get poop stuck on the ridges/wrinkles...lol



And the other thing we wrongly teach in the state is to use soap on genitals. If you want to get a bacteria or yeast infection feel free to scrub your vag out with soap. Same with intact males. the reason most men who have infection issue shave them is that they are wrongly approaching their cleaning routine - not that they lack hygiene. I find it so sad that men who are trying to hard to "do it right" get accused of being dirty. It is that "dirty" myth of foreskin that leads to infection. The body knows how to clean itself. Your vag knows how to keep itself clean - if you start using soapy douches & other things you mess with pH & cause a whole host of issues. A little water on a regular basis works wonders.



Look - do whatever - but this is why your insurance won't cover it. If you leave it be & don't monkey with it & do all sorts of unneeded things like pulling it back & all that, then it needs VERY little to keep it healthy. So while it may have potential benefits - they are potential & they apparently, from the standpoint of many insurance companies, aren't costly enough to warrant paying for every male to get done. If a cost analysis showed that they were paying more for treatment of things that circ can supposedly "prevent" believe me, they'd be the first to promote it - but since it isn't cost effective for them, they see it as an elective procedure.

Love Wedge +2 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Waterloo, Ontario 44310 posts
8th Dec '12
Quoting justanothamotha:" Is your Dr a pediatric urologist? pediatricians don't give toddlers & preschoolers circs. They just ... [snip!] ... me, they'd be the first to promote it - but since it isn't cost effective for them, they see it as an elective procedure."

*wistful sigh* I think I might love you.

greenmamabecky☮ TTC since Jul 2013; 18 kids; Enfield, Connecticut 20987 posts
8th Dec '12

OP probably won't read any of that. She doesn't want to know anything about circumcisions or learn anything new at all. She wants to make a completely ignorant decision rather than an informed one and has gotten mad every time anyone tried to tell her any real facts. She wants to blindly parent her child and make decisions for them just because "its what she wants to do" even though she has no better reason than because intact p***s' are "unnatural".

KSummer Tennessee 47 posts
8th Dec '12

This thread turned out to be super long. I feel its the parents choice your reasons as to why really dont matter either, thats a personal choice. People are attacking other people and everything else. I dont know what Im having yet but when I find out if its a boy I will be getting him circumsized. I know a male friend who wasnt circumsized until he was about 21 years old and he was just like mom really why did'nt you do this when I was a newborn, and she was like I didnt want you to cry or to hurt you in any kind of way. He was like but I wouldnt have remembered it. He said the pain was terrible after the surgery, I believe he might of had to be put under and all of this could have been prevented with a circumcision at birth. I think you should decide whats best for your child and for each person it is different.



BTW my insurance in my state pays for it.

MommyToWesley 1 child; Delaware 3847 posts
8th Dec '12
Quoting Love Wedge +2:" Since we're all here.. How can I help my 3 month old's stuffy nose? Saline drops aren't doing anything and the congestion is farther than that little turkey baster thing will go."


Wow I just read all of this. I missed everything because I went to bed super early 8)



Anyway, when my son is congested I always take him into the bathroom with me while I shower. The bathroom gets good and steamed up and it clears his congestion right up :)

Love Wedge +2 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Waterloo, Ontario 44310 posts
8th Dec '12
Quoting MommyToWesley:" Wow I just read all of this. I missed everything because I went to bed super early 8) Anyway, when ... [snip!] ... him into the bathroom with me while I shower. The bathroom gets good and steamed up and it clears his congestion right up :)"

I tried that last night and it didn't help :(

Mami to a princess Due June 7; 1 child; Miami, Florida 293 posts
8th Dec '12

hope they cover if i have a boy

Emily Thorne 2 kids; Quetzaltenango, Guatemala 26302 posts
8th Dec '12
Quoting nani's mami:" hope they cover if i have a boy"


Call your insurance company and find out now. If they don't cover it then you're going to have to pay out of pocket and should make sure you have the time to save up.

Kristen Parris Due June 29; 1 child; Virginia 1782 posts
8th Dec '12

All of the guys I know who have NOT been circed, wish they would have been........................



My friend's son was born with his meatus in the wrong spot, so they are doing surgery on the 10th to correct it and are using the foreskin to do so. So he will be circumsized at 9 months.

Mrs.Dani Due July 3; 1 child; 3 angel babies; Oxnard, California 10272 posts
8th Dec '12

The one guy I know that is uncirced told me he was really happy at his mom didn't cut him.

Emily Thorne 2 kids; Quetzaltenango, Guatemala 26302 posts
8th Dec '12
Quoting Kristen Parris:" All of the guys I know who have NOT been circed, wish they would have been........................ My ... [snip!] ... so they are doing surgery on the 10th to correct it and are using the foreskin to do so. So he will be circumsized at 9 months."


I don't know any guys who want to be circ'ed.

Kristen Parris Due June 29; 1 child; Virginia 1782 posts
8th Dec '12
Quoting Rumpelstiltskin:" I don't know any guys who want to be circ'ed. "


Do you know any that have been? lol



It would be nice to have some actual guys on here to give their personal point of views

MommyToWesley 1 child; Delaware 3847 posts
8th Dec '12
Quoting Rumpelstiltskin:" I don't know any guys who want to be circ'ed. "


Same here. Every guy I know who isn't circ'ed say they are so happy they aren't. Sex is better in their opinion.