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People can be fat AND fit? Leisurely Duchess 1 child; Monterey, California 25884 posts
13th Dec '12

Saw this whole googling for statistics on obesity in the US vs the UK, it piqued my curiosity.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2198513/People-fat-AND-fit-study-finds-obesity-doesnt-automatically-lead-ill-health.html



People can be fat AND fit as study finds obesity doesn't automatically lead to ill-health



5 September 2012




Nearly half of fat people are just as healthy as slim people - and at no more risk of developing heart problems or cancer, researchers claim.



Doing exercise can offset the dangers of being obese, the researchers found.




The study - which is the largest of its kind - abolishes the notion that obesity automatically leads to ill-health.



It shows that some fat people manage to remain

My Brain On Drugs TTC since Sep 2013; 33 kids; Elephant Butte, New Mexico 15758 posts
13th Dec '12

A fat person in Sweden is fat on different foods than fat Americans. Study is not meaningful to me, because I'd guess there are too many confounding variables.



I would doubt the rigor of the study.



Leisurely Duchess 1 child; Monterey, California 25884 posts
13th Dec '12
Quoting AllHeCanEat{EBFT}:" A fat person in Sweden is fat on different foods than fat Americans. Study is not meaningful to me, because ... [snip!] ... that metabolically healthy but obese people have a better fitness level than the rest of obese individuals. lmao, duh!"


You're only talking about the second study mentioned in the article, right?

Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42775 posts
13th Dec '12
Quoting AllHeCanEat{EBFT}:" A fat person in Sweden is fat on different foods than fat Americans. Study is not meaningful to me, because ... [snip!] ... that metabolically healthy but obese people have a better fitness level than the rest of obese individuals. lmao, duh!"

Yeah, same here.



Plus, "It shows that some fat people manage to remain

My Brain On Drugs TTC since Sep 2013; 33 kids; Elephant Butte, New Mexico 15758 posts
13th Dec '12
Quoting Leisurely Duchess:" You're only talking about the second study mentioned in the article, right?"


yeah

but I doubt the rigor involved with any of it...just seems like the conclusion Americans would be dying to hear.

My Brain On Drugs TTC since Sep 2013; 33 kids; Elephant Butte, New Mexico 15758 posts
13th Dec '12
Quoting Viv, Ev & Gwen ♥:" Yeah, same here. Plus, "It shows that some fat people manage to remain
Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42775 posts
13th Dec '12
Quoting AllHeCanEat{EBFT}:" Yeah, plus--think of the percentage of US citizens morbidly obese--it's a lot...and the study definitely ... [snip!] ... I eat pretty well etc...but rather high bmi gets me into the obesity range. So--yeah--what are the criteria again? lol"

I'm 5'10" and prepregnancy 185ish.
That puts me into the overweight category. I don't really feel I was. I was unhealthy, definitely, because I led a pretty sedentary lifestyle, but I did NOT need to lose 20-something pounds.

Emmiboo 1 child; United Kingdom 3270 posts
13th Dec '12

I am fat. I eat mostly very healthy things and yet I remain fat. I know why this is, it's because I hardly ever move my ass around and when I do have a treat like take-out or candy I tend to over do it. So I will go 2 weeks without candy then gorge on candy for a whole weekend or something. I think studies like the one in the OP are just making fat people think that it's ok to be fat and it really isn't. I hate being fat and I sure as hell am going to kick myself in the ass hard and do something about it. Sure there are some fat people who are genuinely healthy but they are few and far between. The average fat person like myself is either aware of their faults or are in serious denial and clutching to any excuse to justify their fatness.... like studies like these in the OP.
I also think that a lot of the fat people who claim to be fat and fabulously happy about it are just trying to convince themselves they are happy. I am guilty of it in the past. I used to tell people I was fine with my body but then why was I always dreaming and wishing I could lose more weight? I'm not just talking about people with a few extra pounds but I mean people like me who need to lose 150lb+.

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
13th Dec '12

I believe lifestyle is way more important than weight when it comes to health... and seeing as the odds of losing large amounts of weight and keeping it off long term has a 2-5% success rate, I think people would be better off focusing on gaining health from getting active and eating wholesome foods and let the weight do its thing naturally.



Here are some links that talk about it.



http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/full/10.1139/h11-058#.UMqn17Zgu-4



http://www.jabfm.org/content/25/1/9.full



http://thinkmuscle.com/health/obesity-health-metabolic-fitness/



http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJM198603063141003



http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=192035

DisneyMommy 34 kids; Florida 6301 posts
13th Dec '12

Cool article.



I am fat and do not have any major health problems, and I feel pretty fabulous physically most of the time.



Although I do realize that I would be healthier (i say healthier rather than healthy because I dont believe myself to be unhealthy)....it does not affect my self worth....I dont LOVE it, but is just is what it is, would like to lose weight, but not going to go into self-loathing mode over it. I am thinking of going to a gym again soon, thats how i lost weight the first time became overweight and lost it all.....just been lazy, but would be a good idea.....really dont want to gain more weight and go into middle age out of control obese and then end up with health problems.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
15th Dec '12

Makes perfect sense to me. I've always been a proponant of a healthy lifestyle = healthy body regardless of "fat" level (for the most part). I am overweight, active and have no chronic health problems. I don't overeat, I exercise rigorously and I've maintained the same weight for the past year and a half or so regardless of what I do.