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κατι 1 child; Memphis, Tennessee 3143 posts
Dec 14th '12

My SO said the same thing while i was pregnant. I think he was joking,because lately he's been talking to LO about santa coming. Hopefully he will come around like mine did.

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
Dec 14th '12

Eh, no magic and innocence is lost when kids don't believe. DD is learning logic in school, so she is the one that tells us the fat man in the sleigh is not logical. We never taught her one way or the other and we don't do Christmas at all.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
Dec 15th '12

We don't do Santa either further than he's a cartoon character and it's fun to pretend. I don't feel comfortable with it because it was not part of my beliefs growing up and it feels wrong to tell my children that some fat dude is breaking into our home, leaving "presents", and eating our food. My son enjoys the story of Santa and we try to teach him the magic of giving and family during the holidays. I doubt he thinks he's missing anything.

Lillith Abendroth 2 kids; Columbus, Ohio 248 posts
Dec 15th '12

I will tell my daughter the LEGEND OF SANTA, just like im going to tell her the legend of unicorns, faeries, and the loch ness monster, but will i be telling her that he is real, even if i know he is not? No.



I will let her believe what she chooses to believe. Just like mommy believes in unicorns and dragons.



She can have her opinion, and i will tell her mine. That is all. If she wants to believe in a little Christmas magic, let her.

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
Dec 16th '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" I'd leave that p***e o* s**t no doubt. No f**ks given about what anyone thinks of that. My daughter ... [snip!] ... My daughter LOVES the magical idea of Santa, I would tell him to get the f**k out of my house and come back in February. "</blockquote>



Leave him over Santa? Even if he were real, he is a creeper. It's a fat, old, white man that breaks into your house in the middle of the night and eats your cookies and leaves you shit.

user banned California 36390 posts
Dec 16th '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting khigh:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" ... [snip!] ... hate the joy of children and will purposely ruin it for my children." And then the p***y shop would just be closed up for him."</blockquote>




That's a little extreme. Plenty of people don't teach their kids about Santa. :? What about Jewish parents?

user banned California 36390 posts
Dec 16th '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Legendary Amanda:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jude the Super k******r:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... some people believe in magical elephants and trees, it's whatever, You don't raise kids to f**k with other people's beliefs."</blockquote>




If she believes no one telling her will otherwise will change tbat. My brother is 11 and still believes despite everyone at school teasing him. Why? Because he still gets what he wants.every year.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
Dec 16th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jude the Super k******r:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... some people believe in magical elephants and trees, it's whatever, You don't raise kids to f**k with other people's beliefs."



I think it's a slippery slope when it comes to Santa. People get so wrapped up that they forget that others have different beliefs and then get pissed when their child is exposed to diversity. I've taught Will that Santa's pretend but some children think he's real. Will was asked this year what Santa was going to bring for him. Will told the child who asked "Mommy and Daddy buy me gifts, not Santa". He didn't say that Santa wasn't real but it sparked enough doubt for the other child that we had a problem with the parent who never taught their child that others don't celebrate that way. Most people don't understand that it's their responsibility to teach their children that others are different.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
Dec 16th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jude the Super k******r:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ... [snip!] ... some people believe in magical elephants and trees, it's whatever, You don't raise kids to f**k with other people's beliefs."


So, if after Christmas, your daughter asked some other kid what Santa brought them, you would expect that kid to lie to your kid...to perpetuate the lie?

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
Dec 16th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" No I'd expect him to say "We don't believe in Santa" or "We don't celebrate Christmas" or "My mommy ... [snip!] ... ever, ever say "That isn't real" and I would flip my shit if she told another child something they believed in wasn't real. "


Okay, that is reasonable, actually.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
Dec 16th '12
Quoting Supafly★:" I don't want to tell DS about Santa either but for a different reason. We can't afford to shower him ... [snip!] ... and a new bike and all new clothes!" and have DS be like....WTF? Why does Santa like them better than my brother and I? :("


That's why my mom didn't tell us about Santa, and probably why I don't feel comfortable with it myself. Before I had children my sibs were still very small. I would go and buy Christmas gifts for them and, without fail, every year there would be "that kid" in the store that would be screaming and crying and being a brat. Without fail the parent would say "You better be good or Santa's not going to get you that new ______ you wanted". Ummm.... what? You know damn well that parent bought that new _____ and gave it to their kid anyway, why blame Santa for your bad parenting? Always a turn off.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
Dec 16th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" That's why my mom didn't tell us ... [snip!] ... one just uses the threat of taking away things they already enjoy.. I don't know where bad parenting comes into play here."



Empty threats about some imaginary figure giving you coal intead of a new iPad is bad parenting IMO. It shucks the responsibility for correction onto something that is neither real nor tangible. Teaches the child to behave for presents and not because it's the right thing to do.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
Dec 17th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" Empty threats about some imaginary ... [snip!] ... them that Santa is watching. Helps them to understand they're accountable for their actions even when no one is watching."


Remind them that Santa is watching keeping a 3 year old from not being naughty when no ones there? Really? Bwhahahahahahha. That's seriously the funniest shit I've heard today.



I'm sorry, but *I* am accountable for *my* child's actions. Not Santa. *You* are accountable for *your* child's actions. Not Santa. You need to be the authoritary figure that your child looks up to. You are tangible. You are real. Not the threat of some imaginary man not giving them a present on X day. Most parents who use this line of reasoning do not follow through. It's empty. It's also not in the here and now which is what most toddlers/preschoolers/kindergardeners respond to to begin with. "You stop throwing a tantrum or we're going back to the car. We don't act like this in the store" is real and tangible. Dragging them out when they don't stop is real and tangible. Not giving them a present a week away then blaming it on Santa and their "bad" behavior from a week ago? Not really real or tangible, or really understandable for a 3 year old child. And it's normally a very empty threat if a much older child is throwing a tantrum in the store (about 5 or 6, your child shouldn't be throwing store tantrums that escalate to the point of "I'm going to take X away from you")

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
Dec 17th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" Empty threats about some imaginary ... [snip!] ... them that Santa is watching. Helps them to understand they're accountable for their actions even when no one is watching."

I'd love to hear how you explain to a three year old about the "right thing to do" in the middle of Walmart during a tantrum.



I don't. I tell them what they need to do & if they can't do it then we leave. I don't know that I think saying "santa won't get you this or that" is bad parenting - but I have never & would never use that because I think it is ineffective parenting. Kids are pretty short term, so if you need to correct behavior at holiday time you can use whatever you would use the other 11 months of the year when it isn't December. I can't imagine anyone (sane) is using the "santa threat" in February or March & thinking it will work, at all. Do this or in 10 months you won't get what you want under the tree....? That crap wouldn't even work on me & I have a concept of delayed gratification.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
Dec 17th '12
Quoting Legendary Amanda:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" Remind them that Santa is watching ... [snip!] ... is proof of bad parenting and don't use him to rectify it. It's hilarious to me that you think you're such a perfect mother."


"God" was always watching me as a child, definitly didn't do a damn thing to deter me. The whole big brother is watching thing is completely ineffective unless it's reinforced (which it hardly ever is, let's just be honest here).



A child who would understand the reasoning of "Santa's not going to bring you X on Christmas" would also be around 5-7 years old and should NOT be throwing tantrums in the store unless they are developmentally delayed or something of that sort. A child with that level of reasoning skills throwing a tantrum in the store is a testiment to bad parenting. Kind of shows how manipulative these little creatures we call children can be.



For a child younger than that it's more along the lines of ineffective parenting, I suppose, because a child that young wouldn't understand the concept of delayed gratification. Most parents who use ineffective methods consistantly wind up with brats for children.



And where did I ever say I was a perfect parent? All I asserted was I don't waste my time with ineffective and irrelevent parenting stratagies. Don't see the point in threatening my child with something that is irrational and is, well, flat out lies.