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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22820 posts
18th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Doctor:</b>" According to the CDC about 11% of Americans over age 12 take antidepressants. Less than 1/3 of people ... [snip!] ... less than half of those on MULTIPLE medications have seen a mental health professional in the past year. Pretty impressive."</blockquote>




I think it's higher than that.
I have a friend and we sometimes joke about being the only women we know who aren't on one of the popular antidepressants.
I wonder if they count all those people on those drugs that aren't taking it for depression but "something else."
For example, my mom wanton Zoloft for hot flashes and has been on it ever since. It has been fantastic for her mood and everyday demeanor. Her siblings SHOULD be on it as a couple of them are/were beyond pissy people.
My dad has always been a hypochondriac and went off the deep end with it a few years ago. He got on zoloft and the problem has been solved.
So, because they didn't take it for "depression" I'm not sure if they are counted.

Nathan Young 2 kids; Syracuse, New York 57578 posts
18th Dec '12
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting The Doctor:</b>" According to the CDC about 11% of Americans ... [snip!] ... on zoloft and the problem has been solved. So, because they didn't take it for "depression" I'm not sure if they are counted."



I agree, I feel like the statistics I've found in the past put it more in the 25-30% range.



And much higher for women, but I think the links I posted reflect the higher percentage of women using them than men.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22820 posts
18th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Doctor:</b>" I agree, I feel like the statistics I've found in the past put it more in the 25-30% range. And much ... [snip!] ... range. And much higher for women, but I think the links I posted reflect the higher percentage of women using them than men."</blockquote>




Yes, the numbers for women are very high.
Some may also be regional. I think my NYC friends were medicated far more than my suburban friends.
I wondered they collect stats like that.

Nathan Young 2 kids; Syracuse, New York 57578 posts
18th Dec '12
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting The Doctor:</b>" I agree, I feel like the statistics I've ... [snip!] ... be regional. I think my NYC friends were medicated far more than my suburban friends. I wondered they collect stats like that."


Hmm.



It's so interesting how it can change based on just whom you're speaking to.



I know many more in suburbia that are medicated than in urban areas!

Ella Minnow Pea Delight, Arkansas 3822 posts
18th Dec '12

I haven't read the full article or all the comments yet, so sorry if I'm not addressing everything as I need to.



I wholeheartedly believe people are overmedicated--or maybe just wrongly medicated--for various mental health and behavioral issues. Not to sound stereotypical or judgmental, but it seems that most of the lower-income "trailer trash" type of people (not necessarily living in trailers, but behave like white trash) I know are the ones who are on the most meds for such things. In fact, EVERY family who fits that description has at least one child on medication for such things, while not once addressing other possible causes of behavioral or mental problems.



As far as adults on antidepressants, I don't think that's much better. One relative committed suicide while on them, and that was very unlike that individual. He was a middle-aged man, if that matters. Another relative abandoned her kids a few times, leaving profanity-laced notes behind, while she was on them. Admittedly, she was always a bit "off" even before and after the meds, but the meds seemed to take her to a whole new level of crazy. She was also middle aged during that incident.



After witnessing those events, I refused to get any help for my PPD. I had great insurance and the assurance of all my doctors and medical staff that there would be no judgment--just let them know I was struggling and they'd prescribe me something with no questions asked. While I appreciate the efforts to keep people from being embarrassed about their issues, it scares me how easily they hand out meds--not even looking into the situation a little more to verify it was truly a mental health issue and not just the normal anxiety that comes from being a new parent who's not getting enough sleep and dealing with the nonstop crying of a colicky baby.

~*Julie Blue Eyes*~ 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6108 posts
18th Dec '12
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting The Doctor:</b>" According to the CDC about 11% of Americans ... [snip!] ... on zoloft and the problem has been solved. So, because they didn't take it for "depression" I'm not sure if they are counted."


This is the problem that I am running into. I am getting these low numbers because they prescribed for things other than depression...but can have the same effects. My mom too an antidepressant for symptoms of menopause and she said she couldn't wait to wean...because they depressed her.

Nathan Young 2 kids; Syracuse, New York 57578 posts
18th Dec '12
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" This is the problem that I am running into. I am getting these low numbers because they prescribed for ... [snip!] ... My mom too an antidepressant for symptoms of menopause and she said she couldn't wait to wean...because they depressed her. "


Ahhh, I see what you're trying to find. I'm not quite sure how to find those statistics, but in my own experience I've been prescribed medication for the incorrect (IMO) uses.



Psychiatrists frequently prescribe strong anti-psychotic medication for insomnia, for example.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22820 posts
18th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Doctor:</b>" Ahhh, I see what you're trying to find. I'm not quite sure how to find those statistics, but in my ... [snip!] ... for the incorrect (IMO) uses. Psychiatrists frequently prescribe strong anti-psychotic medication for insomnia, for example."</blockquote>




The insomnia must be pretty significant to warrant a strong anti-psychotic. I wonder if that is common.

mamaluvsher4babies 36 kids; California 4230 posts
18th Dec '12

I wwourked for the mental health for the county I live in. NO ONE was EVER turned away! Hell I have had to answer calls where people wanted to kill themselves and I calmed them down and they came in. One was homeless. He went threw a divorce and lost everything ans she wouldnt let him see his kids. He told me he didnt want to hurt himself but wanted to hurt someone else. I did talk him into giving me his name and number. These people wanted help. One main problem is the people DO NOT want help. They are embaraassed or do not want to admit they have a problem. Especially a young person. Society calls them crazies, low lifes, nut jobs etc..Why would they want to come in? Sorry but society needs to grow the F up and stop being judgemental a*****es and maybe people would be more likely to get help.

Legendary Due August 27; 1 child; Beverly Hills, California 54389 posts
status 18th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" I'm not a mental health professional but i have worked in hospitals and i believe there are a few of ... [snip!] ... in the late teens and early 20s. I'm not disputing what you said about not medicating enough. I have mixed thoughts on this. "</blockquote>



You also have experiences and knowledge that I don't have, so I won't argue you!

Nathan Young 2 kids; Syracuse, New York 57578 posts
18th Dec '12
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting The Doctor:</b>" Ahhh, I see what you're trying to find. I'm ... [snip!] ... The insomnia must be pretty significant to warrant a strong anti-psychotic. I wonder if that is common."


As far as I know, it is common.



I've spoken with many people that have been prescribed medications for insomnia that are not intended to treat insomnia.

Momma97 2 kids; New Jersey 2079 posts
18th Dec '12

Im putting my experiance on here, im going threw alot with trying to get help..
Im on medicade, so i only have a slim amount of people who could see me. I feel like my dr. doesnt listen... I will tell him how i am feeling and he respondes with how come, you should be happy right now...nd so forth... most the time im there trying to talk hes just re writing my old scrips. he just wants me to sign the $200 for seeing me.. he has me on wellbutrin, triliptol, xanax.
I cant sleep at night due to my racing thoughts, so he perscribes me 2 xanax at night.. and one during the day if i need for my anxiety/parinoia.... I told him that the mood stabizier was helping alittle and i was feeling less bad feeling but still was daily... all he did was up the xanax to 4 times a day!! i wont take it that much or id be a zombie... i even told him my familys history with drug abuse with that med also, he doesnt seem to care... but i wont take it more then to help sleep because i dont want to get addicted. im sorry this is long, im not sure what im getting at exsactly, but i guess, i agree with them just over perscibing and uch. if you have questions please ask, it would be easier to reply i think,

~*Julie Blue Eyes*~ 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6108 posts
18th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Rae812:</b>" Im putting my experiance on here, im going threw alot with trying to get help.. Im on medicade, so i ... [snip!] ... i guess, i agree with them just over perscibing and uch. if you have questions please ask, it would be easier to reply i think,"</blockquote>



Would you mind if I pm'd you about this, tomorrow?

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 21595 posts
19th Dec '12

I have been diagnosed with a slew of mental illnesses. On a bunch of medications. Been in the hospital 3 times since July of 2011. My most recent one was five and a half months from April to September of this year. I was first admitted to an institution then after 45 days I was transferred to the state facility where I stayed the remainder of the time. I was extremely institutionalized in my thinking. I was constantly chaperoned and the first while being home I thought I had to be monitored so I didn't do anything "bad". I was discharged way too soon. Honestly I feel I should be back in the hospital or still there. I won't go into detail unless I'm asked why I believe this but it's hell living the life I'm forced to



They felt I could be ok being discharged. I wholeheartedly disagree and my therapist does as well. I spoke up and finances did not come up but I'm almost certain that was a big part of my discharge. I was on an involuntary hold from the third day of my stay in the institution to the day I was discharged from the state hospital. You only can be a patient in the hospital (state) if you are involuntary. They paid for my entire stay there. I'm thankful they did. I'm going through alot of troubles right now because the place I was before being transferred was $2000 a day and my insurance ran out after 30 days. The first facility was going to discharge me 2 weeks before I got transferred. They kept telling me because I was ready. I needed to get out of there. I know it was financial. I'm having to send them $20 a month right now since I have a baby plus I'm on SSDI. I get a very minimal income every month. Every bit counts and I'm thankful because my mental illness has caused me multiple jobs plus my apartment. This last hospitalization cost me two jobs and my apartment. I'm living with my family right now.



Also when I was working at the hospital we turned down anybody who didnt have insurance who wanted to be admitted to our mental health facility. The facility I went to also did the same thing. I'm scared to death what will happen if I need to be admitted again. I do not have insurance.



I do not qualify for SSI so therefore I don't qualify for Medicaid through the state. I will qualify for Medicare after two years however. Thankfully I found a counselor who will accept $20 a session and also does medications. I'm gladly able to tell you my medications if you are curious.



As for antidepressants being given too often. I agree. I am on two antidepressants right now which help each other. But through this hospitalization I had tried Prozac and Celexa which caused me to be MORE suicidal. I was in the hospital thankfully or else who knows what could have happened. That facility was very supervised but the state facility I did many horrible things to myself (sadly). I was also given Abilify and within 48 hours I couldn't urinate. I was 21 (22 now) and fairly healthy physically. They took me off of everything immediately. I had numerous catheters where they didn't stay in then they put one in that stayed in. They replaced that multiple times. I had a catheter in for 2 months. Every time they would take it out I couldn't urinate so they put another in. When I got to the state facility I was taken to a urologist and was taught to cath myself. I did that a couple weeks and now I'm healed from that. I can't even count how many I had done. This didnt just happen to me it happened to multiple people in the first facility and one other young woman in the state facility.



I believe antidepressants are a good thing for the right people. But the wrong people and they can have hazardous complications.



I believe there needs to be more research in mental illness. There needs to be more funding for mental illness. There needs to be more awareness



Sorry it's so long

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 21595 posts
19th Dec '12

You may also PM me if you need any more information or ask on here. I'm fairly an open book I don't mind questions :)