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Cast Your Vote:

    • 27, she should be counted -- Votes: 84
    • 26, don't count the mom -- Votes: 4
greenmamabecky☮ TTC since Jul 2013; 18 kids; Enfield, Connecticut 20987 posts
20th Dec '12
Quoting Kelly&Coralie:" You think the shooter should be remembered in this tragedy? No way. He caused it"


Yes I do think he was still a casualty. Yes he caused it, but he was still a person.



I can't help but think a 20 yr old would not be in the right mind and be so evil. He had serious mental problems and was probably in a lot of his own pain to end like that.

Amy {OneGirl, TwoBoys} 3 kids; Cincinnati, Oh, United States 24256 posts
20th Dec '12

is it how its worded? 26 died in the school shooting, but Lanza is responsible for 27 deaths. anyway, i've heard 27 wherever i go

~~My Pet Wussy~~ 3 kids; USA 23722 posts
20th Dec '12

She didn't die at the school. She wasn't part of the mass shooting.

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 22946 posts
20th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~~My Pet Wussy~~:</b>" She didn't die at the school. She wasn't part of the mass shooting."</blockquote>




I do understand this

Kelly&Coralie 1 child; Rochester, NY, United States 56009 posts
20th Dec '12
Quoting ~~My Pet Wussy~~:" She didn't die at the school. She wasn't part of the mass shooting."


She was still part of his body count



If he were a sniper picking people off at random places, she would be counted.

Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42788 posts
20th Dec '12

She was not a victim of the sandy hook elementary school massacre. That's why they don't count her. He killed her prior to going to the school.

Kelly&Coralie 1 child; Rochester, NY, United States 56009 posts
20th Dec '12
Quoting Viv, Ev & Gwen ♥:" She was not a victim of the sandy hook elementary school massacre. That's why they don't count her. He killed her prior to going to the school."


if anything, she was the first victim.



I still think she should be counted among the massacre.

Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42788 posts
20th Dec '12
Quoting Kelly&Coralie:" if anything, she was the first victim. I still think she should be counted among the massacre."


She wasn't part of the elementary school massacre. She wasn't killed at the school.

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 22946 posts
20th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Viv, Ev & Gwen ♥:</b>" She wasn't part of the elementary school massacre. She wasn't killed at the school. "</blockquote>




:!:

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
20th Dec '12

I hear twenty-seven more than twenty-six.



I hate to say this, but if she knew that her son was mentally ill yet kept the guns within his reach, then she is partially to blame for the shootings.

Gosloving 1 child; Washington 12831 posts
20th Dec '12
Quoting Will☮Creedence:" I think they're not including him..."


In every news report they mention 27 including him.



I think when they say this. They only refer to the deaths that occured in the school area. Most of the time, they'll say he shot his mother at home and then 27 were killed in the school including shooter. Or so I've heard.

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27477 posts
status 20th Dec '12
Quoting Will☮Creedence:" Yes I do think he was still a casualty. Yes he caused it, but he was still a person. I can't help ... [snip!] ... be in the right mind and be so evil. He had serious mental problems and was probably in a lot of his own pain to end like that."


So should Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold be included on the crosses on Clement Hill... regarding the Columbine shootings? After all, they had serious mental problems and had pain.



I am REALLY curious about your answer. If you dont know what I'm talking about, there are 13 crosses on Clement Hill with the names and pictures of the kids killed at Columbine... but Eric and Dylan are not included.

. , Richmond, VA, United States 75033 posts
20th Dec '12
Quoting Will☮Creedence:" Yes I do think he was still a casualty. Yes he caused it, but he was still a person. I can't help ... [snip!] ... be in the right mind and be so evil. He had serious mental problems and was probably in a lot of his own pain to end like that."

So what if he was a person? He was the perpetrator, not a victim and that's what they're counting.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31612 posts
21st Dec '12

The shooter himself should not be included. I feel his mother is partially to blame as well, which is probably why she isn't included. Sure, she lost her life too, but she provided access to these weapons and took her son to the shooting range, when clearly he had issues. Not wise, but again, she paid for it with her life.

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27477 posts
status 22nd Dec '12
Quoting Destinite:" The shooter himself should not be included. I feel his mother is partially to blame as well, which is ... [snip!] ... weapons and took her son to the shooting range, when clearly he had issues. Not wise, but again, she paid for it with her life."


Woah.... introducing your child to guns is NOT a reason to be blamed. My high school had a gun range and I was taught to shoot guns inside my school. So if I started to shoot up my work, a public place, my family, etc... should my school be blamed because my school taught me to shoot guns?