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¡VinHaute! Memphis, Tennessee 44453 posts
status 27th Dec '12
Quoting ~chel~:" I don't think that its that people don't know which foods are better for them. (You can ask a 5yr old, ... [snip!] ... overwhelmed, and have a short time to get things fixed......most likely for me its going to be hamburger Helper or hotdogs."


2/3 of americans are overweight. 1/3 obese. Would you say that is 100% attributed to lack of exercise? If you consumed only the amount of calories needed to sustain just your regulatory and basal needs, you wouldn't gain much (if any) weight. We gain weight by consuming in excess of our needs - something americans are seemingly very good at.
Sure exercise helps immensely and is needed for other aspects of our health - but with statistics like these, there is an obvious indicator that many americans have an issue with maintaining a healthy diet.




And I agree with others. Fresh food is no more difficult to prepare than some of these boxed atrocities.

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
27th Dec '12
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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22972 posts
27th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting ღ Diana ღ:</b>" I think it's just Americans in general. We have become so lazy with our lifestyles. Growing up junk ... [snip!] ... single day for breakfast or leftover chicken nuggets and cheeseburgers, taco's from taco bell and pizza (oh god the pizza)."</blockquote>




Ugh. That is really gross!

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
27th Dec '12
Quoting MAIKENTRA:" Why do people have this constant obsession with needing to boss the poor around? The benefits they receive ... [snip!] ... food stamps and TANF. If poor people want to eat f**king cheetos and doritos, I'm not going to take away their right to do so. "


Actuall, over a TRILLION dollars a year goes to welfare programs and that does not include Medicare or Social Security. It's beating out the defense budget now.



http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/welfare-spending-now-largest-federal-budget-item_654849.html



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/18/welfare-spending-topped-1-trillion-in-2011-study-shows/

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
27th Dec '12

I'm all for a federal WIC type program to replace FS and putting a limit on how long you can use it unless you are getting SSI or disability (for something real...no more of this disability for obesity crap). Put a limit of 6 months on FS and welfare and unemployment and see how many people actually try to get a job or help themselves.

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
27th Dec '12
Quoting MAIKENTRA:" Why do people have this constant obsession with needing to boss the poor around? The benefits they receive ... [snip!] ... food stamps and TANF. If poor people want to eat f**king cheetos and doritos, I'm not going to take away their right to do so. "


Because it's endangering the lives and health of children all over America.

~chel~ Due June 2 (boy); 1 child; Kentucky 134 posts
27th Dec '12

I wasn't saying its just laziness, as in physical inactivity......but also in cooking style. Something frozen or fried is generally faster/cheaper. (There are healthy alternatives for around the same price, I am just saying me personally would RATHER have a frozen pizza or pretty much ANYTHING fried than a bunch of veggies.LOL) I think it has something to do with how you are raised also. I grew up on Ramen noodles, and sandwiches.......so the thought of stir fry or salad would def be my LAST choice. I still don't really believe that it is all because of lack of education that is making people obese. The majority of nurses are over weight/obese (I am a nurse, I know.LOL) And we deal with nutrition and teach others what they should eat......but the majority of us don't take our own advice. Everyone to thier own, in the end everyone does what works for them :)

MAIKENTRA 1 child; Maine 6552 posts
27th Dec '12
Quoting khigh:" Actuall, over a TRILLION dollars a year goes to welfare programs and that does not include Medicare ... [snip!] ... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/18/welfare-spending-topped-1-trillion-in-2011-study-shows/"


I don't usually trust anything said by Fox News, because they clearly have an agenda, but I know that war/militarism/foreign aid account for 33% of federal spending whereas welfare, including medicare and social security, accounts for about 10%.



Even if it is in the trillions thus far, the war on "terrorism" and, let's be honest, oil, rang up over a trillion dollars in ONE DECADE.



That doesn't even account for militarism, or foreign aid. My only point in stating that is that the government uses more of our taxes on unnecessary shit more than the impoverished do. I feel like poor people are often used as a scapegoat and everyone seems so adamant about blaming them for the entire downfall of the economy within the past decade or so, when it's complete bullshit.



And I feel like nutrition classes would also add significantly to the trillions that we spend on them.

Good Queen Bess 2 kids; Ontario 45788 posts
27th Dec '12
Quoting ~chel~:" I wasn't saying its just laziness, as in physical inactivity......but also in cooking style. Something ... [snip!] ... the majority of us don't take our own advice. Everyone to thier own, in the end everyone does what works for them :)"


That's the thing....where does the cycle break?



You ate shit food growing up, you cook shit food now....You'll feed your child shit food growing up, they'll cook shit food when they are older.



Don't you want to teach your child to be healthier and to do better?

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
27th Dec '12
Quoting ~chel~:" I wasn't saying its just laziness, as in physical inactivity......but also in cooking style. Something ... [snip!] ... the majority of us don't take our own advice. Everyone to thier own, in the end everyone does what works for them :)"


That's where the problem comes in. The cycle continues. You were raised and taught that lifestyle, so you're likely to carry it on to the next generation.

I believe many careers like doctors and nurses often have to eat from a vending machine or quick cafeteria bite because they are so incredibly busy. Not saying it's an excuse, but it's understandable. You people dont get breaks at all.

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
27th Dec '12
Quoting MAIKENTRA:" I don't usually trust anything said by Fox News, because they clearly have an agenda, but I know that ... [snip!] ... complete bullshit. And I feel like nutrition classes would also add significantly to the trillions that we spend on them. "


Point to me in the Constitution where it says we should be spending ANY federal money on welfare (and, the General Welfare clause is not it). Also, point out for me where it says we should maintain a Navy and provide funds for defense.

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
27th Dec '12
Quoting speaktruth2powr:" That's the thing....where does the cycle break? You ate shit food growing up, you cook shit food now....You'll ... [snip!] ... growing up, they'll cook shit food when they are older. Don't you want to teach your child to be healthier and to do better?"


JINX!

khigh 1 child; Fort Sill, Oklahoma 8101 posts
27th Dec '12
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" That's where the problem comes in. The cycle continues. You were raised and taught that lifestyle, ... [snip!] ... because they are so incredibly busy. Not saying it's an excuse, but it's understandable. You people dont get breaks at all."


The cafeteria food at the hospital here is amazing and dirt cheap. Sometimes I will stop by there for lunch and get a vegan seaweed wrap and vegan pudding for less than $5.00.

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
27th Dec '12
Quoting khigh:" Point to me in the Constitution where it says we should be spending ANY federal money on welfare (and, ... [snip!] ... Welfare clause is not it). Also, point out for me where it says we should maintain a Navy and provide funds for defense."


:!:

Regardless, many people receive benefits that should be for short term or transitional use. Yet many use it for long periods and dont make healthy choices. Thus, lifting the amount paid on medicaid benefits for issues such as obesity, bone issues, heart issues, diabetes, etc etc etc.

I'd rather pay for a nutrition class anyday. Mainly because I CARE about the health of children.

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
27th Dec '12
Quoting khigh:" The cafeteria food at the hospital here is amazing and dirt cheap. Sometimes I will stop by there for lunch and get a vegan seaweed wrap and vegan pudding for less than $5.00."

wow... i didnt know they had options like that. Its been a while since I've been to a hospital. lol