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James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting onebabylove:" Maybe I should have asked his opinion on the person I married as well? Or maybe what their career would ... [snip!] ... involved in the childs life. Never even a thought to wipe the father out of the picture. But, thank you all for your opinions."


I didn't judge, I just simply stated to think of it as if the tables were turned and he was the one moving away with your baby. If you would be ok with that maybe you two can come up with an agreement where he can ship her to you for certain times of the year.



I was that child that had to fly to different state to see my dad and it sucked!

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 26807 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting onebabylove:" Oh geeze. Yes, he has seen her 2 times a week for a while. I thought if he did not agree then we would ... [snip!] ... than her fathers job. I just do not know what to do. I do not see how people can be stuck in one state and not be able to move."


So... you were just going to leave to evade the courts even though he was seeing her two times a week? You think something as crappy as "Well her stepfathers job is better" is a good reason to just up and move?



Im sorry I dont agree with you as well. You purposefully didnt tell him because you knew he could hold you in the state. This wasnt a case of a father never seeing his child... he was seeing his child two times a week. And then you move and say "Oh well Im willing for vacations and holidays" as if that makes it better."



Im sorry but I do NOT agree with you at all. You should of gone to court before. Not leave in hopes that you could file for custody once you move when the father was seeing his child two times a week.

James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting Michael Westen:" It is kidnapping. She is taking another persons child away from him. Just because she is the kids mom doesn't make her incapable of kidnapping the kid."


No it is not.



Ive been through it with legal advice. It is not kidnapping.

Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting James Mama:" No it is not. Ive been through it with legal advice. It is not kidnapping."


Yes it is. DH's ex wife was arrested for doing the SAME exact thing to us a few years ago.

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 26807 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting James Mama:" No it is not. Ive been through it with legal advice. It is not kidnapping."


You are right. Unless there is a legal agreement, its legal to take the kid.



My ex took my child from me and would NOT give her back. He evaded the police and me. And it was legal since there was no custody agreement.

onebabylove Due March 24; South Carolina 378 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting FroggysMommy:" You are right. Unless there is a legal agreement, its legal to take the kid. My ex took my child from ... [snip!] ... child from me and would NOT give her back. He evaded the police and me. And it was legal since there was no custody agreement."


What happened since there was no agreement?

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 26807 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting onebabylove:" What happened since there was no agreement?"


The cops managed to talk him into giving her back but legally he didnt have to until we went to court and a judge ordered him to.

Monkey Nuts Australia 4572 posts
30th Dec '12

OP Why do you think it's your RIGHT to take the child and move far away?
Would you not feel disgusted and angry if he was going to do the same thing to you?

James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
30th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Michael Westen:</b>" Yes it is. DH's ex wife was arrested for doing the SAME exact thing to us a few years ago."</blockquote>




Yeah it their case there was a previous marriage. That makes the difference!

Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting James Mama:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Michael Westen:</b>" Yes it is. DH's ex wife was arrested ... [snip!] ... to us a few years ago."</blockquote> Yeah it their case there was a previous marriage. That makes the difference!"


No it doesn't Custody and Divorce are two separate issues. We didn't even tell the cops that they were ever married when that happened. We told them that she was going against the agreement.

James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
30th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Michael Westen:</b>" No it doesn't Custody and Divorce are two separate issues. We didn't even tell the cops that they were ever married when that happened. We told them that she was going against the agreement."</blockquote>




It doesn't matter. Marriage does make a difference.

Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting James Mama:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Michael Westen:</b>" No it doesn't Custody and Divorce are ... [snip!] ... told them that she was going against the agreement."</blockquote> It doesn't matter. Marriage does make a difference."


No it doesn't. When DH's ex wife did that, they police had ZERO idea that they were ever married. So how does marriage make a difference? Kidnapping is kidnapping.

James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
30th Dec '12

<blockquote><b>Quoting Michael Westen:</b>" No it doesn't. When DH's ex wife did that, they police had ZERO idea that they were ever married. So how does marriage make a difference? Kidnapping is kidnapping."</blockquote>



When I wasn't married I could have taken my kids out of state without permission from their dad. Now that I am married I cannot.

Robert Downey Jr. Zanzibar, Tanzania 16079 posts
30th Dec '12
Quoting James Mama:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Michael Westen:</b>" No it doesn't. When DH's ex wife did that, ... [snip!] ... I wasn't married I could have taken my kids out of state without permission from their dad. Now that I am married I cannot."


Oh we can take DS out of the state whenever we want as long as he is back here for visitation with his mom. We can't just up and MOVE out of the state without going to court and reconfiguring visitation. If we did and DS didn't go to his moms, we would also be charged with kidnapping him.