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MommaNoodle 2 kids; Pennsylvania 13115 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting MommaSav2:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Jas ♥:</b>" Not the same."</blockquote> Ok. But ... [snip!] ... is going to live wih for the rest of her life. I think that's enough and she doesn't need to be prosecuted in my opinion."


so, would you think the same for anyone else? if a drunk driver felt bad for killing someone in an accident, you wouldn't mind if they weren't charged with something? just because they would also have to live with it for the rest of their life?.....



i think she should be charged. it was preventable, and easily so.

user banned 3 kids; Ontario 10942 posts
2nd Jan '13

Parents fault. I didn't start leaving my kids till around 2 by themselves in the tub.



Eta 3 not 2 lol

Destinite TTC since May 2011; 1 child; 2 angel babies; Florida 30876 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting Thisperyears:" It's negligence. Anyone with half a brain knows you don't leave a baby in the tub alone for any amount of time."


I'm starting to think 3/4 of the population lack a brain.



Emily Thorne 2 kids; Quetzaltenango, Guatemala 26302 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting MommaNoodle:" so, would you think the same for anyone else? if a drunk driver felt bad for killing someone in an accident, ... [snip!] ... also have to live with it for the rest of their life?..... i think she should be charged. i was preventable, and easily so."


:!: I never understood why people think that.

MommaNoodle 2 kids; Pennsylvania 13115 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting Rumpelstiltskin:" :!: I never understood why people think that. "


me either. if it was me, whether it was drunk driving or leaving my kid in the tub, i would WANT to be prosecuted for it. i would feel terrible my whole life, yes, but i would want to be held accountable for the absolutely dumb thing that i did.

Destinite TTC since May 2011; 1 child; 2 angel babies; Florida 30876 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting MommaSav2:" No IMO she should not be charged. It's a terrible tragedy and it could have been prevented. I'm sure ... [snip!] ... make potentially fatal mistakes all the time. Would you prosecute a mother who didn't anchor her child's dresser to the wall?"


Well, that sounds like an easy scapegoat way to kill your kid if you ask me. Sorry, if you are stupid enough to leave a child that cannot swim alone while you check facebook, you deserve whatever you have coming to you.



user banned 1 child; Portland, Maine 20613 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting MommaNoodle:" me either. if it was me, whether it was drunk driving or leaving my kid in the tub, i would WANT to ... [snip!] ... i would feel terrible my whole life, yes, but i would want to be held accountable for the absolutely dumb thing that i did. "


If I caused the death of a child, whether mine or not, I would probably end up harming myself or worse if I weren't convicted.

wombie 4 kids; Zimbabwe 73281 posts
2nd Jan '13

As sad as that mother probably is and as much as I don't think she would be a danger to anyone else, I think she should be charged and punished. She was negligent, plain and simple and it resulted in the death of her child.



I don't normally promote harshly punishing people with prison sentences when they are not a danger to society, however, sometimes examples need to be set to prevent future tragedies. Sadly, there is not a test that has to be passed to become a parent, therefore, some people with zero common sense can parent children. Maybe some of these parents who have no foresight to see that leaving a baby in a bathtub alone is dangerous, might be able to understand that THEY would be punished for doing something so stupid if they see that this woman was held responsible and punished. Maybe, if they are dumb enough to leave a baby in a bathtub, this would make them think twice about doing so. Sometimes we just need to make examples out of people to prevent other tragedies from happening and if making an example out of this woman could prevent the death of even ONE child, it's worth it to me.

Roe23 2 kids; Ottawa, Ontario 4199 posts
2nd Jan '13

I feel uncomfortable leaving my 4 year old while I get a towel or clothes, even with the doors open while I'm talking to her, I couldn't imagine leaving a 1 year old!



That is horribly sad. I agree that there is no punishment that will be as terrible as the guilt she will be left with, however, she is at fault and should be punished.

Emily Thorne 2 kids; Quetzaltenango, Guatemala 26302 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting Thisperyears:" If I caused the death of a child, whether mine or not, I would probably end up harming myself or worse if I weren't convicted."


:!:

lacTAYtor. ☮ 3 kids; North Carolina 4496 posts
2nd Jan '13

I agree that she should be charged, but according to the article she wasn't. I honestly don't see how. She didn't accidentally leave her baby alone in the tub, she negligently decided something else was more important than the safety of her barely 1 year old. It's just so sad.

Destinite TTC since May 2011; 1 child; 2 angel babies; Florida 30876 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting Thisperyears:" If I caused the death of a child, whether mine or not, I would probably end up harming myself or worse if I weren't convicted."


Same here. If something happened to my son, I don't think I'd ever recover.
I live on the water, so I have been OCD about teaching him how to swim the moment he popped out of the womb since most drowning deaths are 0-5 year olds.

Mama♥Breezy 2 kids; Los Angeles, California 34986 posts
3rd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting IDID-VBAC 12/09:</b>" Parent is to blame. I dont even leave my (almost) 5yr old and 3yr old alone-not even to walk 4 feet around the corner to grab a towel. "</blockquote>



Ditto! Mine are the same age and I never walk away. I got so pissed at my husband when he did it once. It's really sad how much this happens. I agree mom should be charged with something...but definitely not murder.

thisunrest India 10364 posts
3rd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting тᴀỵ 26:</b>" I was reading a story about the death of a 13 month old. Apparently the LO was in the bath and the parent ... [snip!] ... away. Is the parent at fault or is it purely an 'accident'? Should the parent be charged, if so, what should the charge be?"</blockquote>





When a parent does something reckless like the woman in question did , hell yes she should be charged!



To me, an accident would be your child yanking his hand out of yours and running into the street. But when a caregiver causes a child's death by breaking a safety-rule or being negligent like this, it's a slap in the face to all parents who do everything they can to keep their children safe and still lose them.



I really don't believe in "suffered enough" when it comes to cases described by the OP.

thisunrest India 10364 posts
3rd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting MommaSav2:</b>" No IMO she should not be charged. It's a terrible tragedy and it could have been prevented. I'm sure ... [snip!] ... make potentially fatal mistakes all the time. Would you prosecute a mother who didn't anchor her child's dresser to the wall?"</blockquote>




I read that post. The three-year-old's dresser fell on her in the middle of the night. No one was awake to hear and save her. That wasn't the case of a mother putting her kid in the bath and getting on Facebook or dangling him over a pit of wild animals, because her daughter wasn't placed in danger. She was safe in bed when her parents left her room.



That's an accident. And I'm glad I read it because I didn't even think toddler-furniture could be that heavy.