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blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

http://bodyecology.com/articles/do-you-have-a-wheat-belly#.UOTj8Lu-lv0



http://nourishedkitchen.com/against-the-grain-10-reasons-to-give-up-grains/



Why to go grain free^




http://www.naturalnews.com/002695.html




http://vibrancy.homestead.com/dairy.html



Why dairy is bad




You can Google and view all of these things. There is nothing that. Grain or dairy offers that you can't find in fruits, veggies, nuts or seeds



People are programmed to believe they are good bc the government profits from them big time. Of course they want you to eat them. And even if you go the fruit and veggie way if it's not organic it has gmo meaning genetically modified with fish genes, chemicals, pesticides, hormones and many more.



It is a fact that they are f**king with our food which is why previously healthy foods are now bad for us bc they are f**king with it. Food isn't like it used to be. There is so much added and taken from it.




Watch these:



Fat, sick and nearly dead
food matters
King corn
The gerson miracle
The beautiful truth
Dying to have known
Forks over knives




Research and then after all that, tell me if you still feel the same. Ijs




Too many people go by what they are told instead of researching for themselves. Look at "scientific tests" who did these tests? Chances are its the same people profiting from the use of the product.



This post was not to debate whether its good, bad or weirs but to get ideas and experiences from people who actually live this lifestyle.

Red Bottom 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15275 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting Taryn - Anya's mommy:" wow, you have to be a b***h about it too??? Its OP's life, not yours"



I gave legitimate advice in my first post and was replied to like I was a moronic government bafoon. I stopped caring.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" http://bodyecology.com/articles/do-you-have-a-wheat-belly#.UOTj8Lu-lv0 http://nourishedkitchen.com ... [snip!] ... was not to debate whether its good, bad or weirs but to get ideas and experiences from people who actually live this lifestyle."


So why don't you just grow your own?

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting jaela's♥mommy {BBM}:</b>" ive tried, but it didn't last very long. i felt really hungry all the time without any meat. starting ... [snip!] ... more of a raw paleo style diet. mostly raw fruits and veggies, but im going to include eggs, greek yogurt, fish and lean meats."</blockquote>




How long did you do it? I might try paleo first as a transition then cut dairy then cut meat. Ill try it and see how my body feels. What made you try that? My goal with any lifestyle change I choose though is 51% raw foods, no dairy or grain.at the least.

Red Bottom 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15275 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" http://bodyecology.com/articles/do-you-have-a-wheat-belly#.UOTj8Lu-lv0 http://nourishedkitchen.com ... [snip!] ... was not to debate whether its good, bad or weirs but to get ideas and experiences from people who actually live this lifestyle."


My research was through reading a book on nutrition, not google. I can find articles on google to tell me why tap dancing is beneficial for fireifghters....the fact that you found articles to support your claims is not shocking, anyone can do that.

Snickles 4 kids; California 3071 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" http://bodyecology.com/articles/do-you-have-a-wheat-belly#.UOTj8Lu-lv0 http://nourishedkitchen.com ... [snip!] ... was not to debate whether its good, bad or weirs but to get ideas and experiences from people who actually live this lifestyle."


My uncle is on the gerson method, he says he has never felt better.......He started it because of health issues though

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Pistol Amber:</b>" Seriously???? There are plenty of doctors and nutritionist that I have spoken with that have said you ... [snip!] ... you have some sort of allergy your body needs it. If you are scared of government conspiracies make your own bread then. "</blockquote>




Gluten is in ALL wheat pruducts even.the seeds. The government genetically modified wheat in the 50's. That is proven. Doctors and nutritionists are only going by what they taught, which is a curriculum set up by the government. Making your own.bread won't stop gluten from being in it. All the nutrients you can get from bread you can get from other foods.you can also make nut breads.

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Tasha & Nika:</b>" What are you going to do for protein? Otherwise, as a recommendation: ceviche. It's fish, raw fish, ... [snip!] ... juice. We eat that a lot, and it's still raw.. but it is fish.. I don't know if you're going on a veggie/fruit diet only.."</blockquote>




Chia seeds, sesame seeds, flax seeds, leafy greens and many more actually have more protein that meat. Its a misconception that meat and dairy have the most protein of any foods. They do gave different enzymes though.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" <blockquote><b>Quoting jaela's♥mommy {BBM}:</b>" ive tried, but it didn't last ... [snip!] ... What made you try that? My goal with any lifestyle change I choose though is 51% raw foods, no dairy or grain.at the least."


are you doing true paleolithic?

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Brink:</b>" We don't eat raw (I like cooked stuff lol) but we are gluten free and low dairy/casein. My son has a ... [snip!] ... massive meals for this house. Dh is gone in the evening so the boys and I are gluten free. Pinterest has a lot of recipes."</blockquote>




Do you find it hard? Do you by prepacked or make your own nut breads. I plan to only go 51% raw long term. I do plan to cook some too. How do you feel doing it? Noticed health benefits or concerns? Thanks for sharing



What do you use as dairy and wheat substitutes?

jaela's♥mommy {BBM} 1 child; Lewisville, Texas 10628 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" <blockquote><b>Quoting jaela's♥mommy {BBM}:</b>" ive tried, but it didn't last ... [snip!] ... What made you try that? My goal with any lifestyle change I choose though is 51% raw foods, no dairy or grain.at the least."


i did it for about 4 month and i actually lost 22 lbs. i dont have any gluten allergies, but my body type doesn't do well with carbs from grains. i fell off during the holidays and wasn't able to motivate myself to get back on it. i did a lot of the same research as you, but i think that meat is important. i only eat wile caught fish, nothing that's farm raised, cage/range free eggs and chicken, and grass fed beef. you can do meat in a healthy way. i felt a lot better physically, but it was hard mentally. bread, rice, and pasta are my comfort foods and i love them so its really tuff giving them up.

Hy'ska 2 kids; Washington 50789 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Brink:</b>" We don't eat raw (I like cooked stuff lol) but we ... [snip!] ... do you feel doing it? Noticed health benefits or concerns? Thanks for sharing What do you use as dairy and wheat substitutes?"


We don't use bread often anymore. If we do we use a rice bread. I get it premade unless it's the weekend then I use my bread machine. I work so it's just easier to buy premade stuff sometimes.
It took a while to get use to but once we got the hang of it it's our normal now.



We use a lot of quinoa and corn and rice as subs. For dairy we use a lot of coconut and almond things.



My son had a lot of health issues a looot of GI problems and now he is awesome. He's a different kid. His skin is better, dark circles under his eyes are gone, happier, it has really helped him a lot.

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" Okay Jesse James. Everything is a conspiracy theory and we're all implanted with chips too, right? You're smarter than all of those doctors who went to med school, enjoy those carrots. "</blockquote>




Actually obama care had a provision to do chip implantation if us citizens. Look it up. It was denied of course. Don't be so niave. I'm not pulling this stuff out of my ass. Just bc you choose not to believe it don't act like it doesn't exist. When Washington the last time a doctor asked you about your diet when.you went in? They spend maybe 2 weeks on nutrition in school. Doctors aren't trained in nutrition.



Anyway I'm.not asking you to believe it or think like me. I asked for other people's experiences. Thanks for your input though.

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Master:</b>" I know a few people that eat raw but that also includes meat, fish, and eats. Also a lot of my friends ... [snip!] ... methods (generally fire pits), and eat heaps of shellfish. No sauces (except blood sauce), no sugar/salt/pepper/seasonings."</blockquote>




Sounds very interesting. I'm into paleo and gaps now. I do a lot of bone broths made from all parts of the carcus.



Do they have sickness, deficiencies or anything? Are they skin, fat or muscular. I know everyone is different but I wonder rod any of them share experiences wit you about how it affects their overall health. Thanks for sharing

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Master:</b>" So why don't you just grow your own?"</blockquote>




I don't have time plus even growing your own doesn't stop genetically modified. The seeds are modified too. So when you grow or make your own it can still be tampered with by the government. Its complicated and seems crazy but Google Dow and monsanto. They promote pesticeds and chemicals on and in foods.