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Tasha & Nika Due December 22 (boy); 1 child; San Jose, CA, United States 16036 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Tasha & Nika:</b>" What are you going to do for protein? Otherwise, ... [snip!] ... that meat. Its a misconception that meat and dairy have the most protein of any foods. They do gave different enzymes though."


Ya know, I'm not out to prove anyone wrong or debate this.. I was just curious what you were doing for protein, mostly because you asked for ideas, and I have those. Personally, I've had amazing results on no starch, high protein diets.. but I'm not about to push that on anyone.



So, as I was saying, if you are not excluding the idea of meat, because I do have a few ideas and recipes that include raw meat or fish..

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" My research was through reading a book on nutrition, not google. I can find articles on google to tell ... [snip!] ... is beneficial for fireifghters....the fact that you found articles to support your claims is not shocking, anyone can do that."</blockquote>



Who wrote the book? What nutrients and minerals do you get and what % per serving? What are side effects from.consuming those products? What is the side by side comparison of those findings compared to a fruit, veggie, nut or seed alternative? That is the research I've done and I've read medical journals.



I do not have a nut allergy so that is the main adverse complication I could see from this lifestyle. I'm still researching enzymes and animosity acids.



I didn't just Google. I have been researching and comparing for months.

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Snickles:</b>" My uncle is on the gerson method, he says he has never felt better.......He started it because of health issues though"</blockquote>




I.juice daily.



I have to admit the gerson therapy is a way of life, cooking methods, toxin limitations and strict diet. That is too strict for me but if I had a disease or illness especially cancer I would do it in a heartbeat. It really amazes me. Have you seen the gerson miracle?

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" <blockquote><b>Quoting The Master:</b>" I know a few people that eat raw but that also ... [snip!] ... different but I wonder rod any of them share experiences wit you about how it affects their overall health. Thanks for sharing"


It depends. Times are different now, you don't go out and hunt your food or spend 22 hours a day trying to gather wild wheat to grind flour. Most of them are incredibly skinny, muscular is difficult on paleo due to the small amounts of protein. I'm talking true paleo though, like I said my friends do it the real way in that they only have protein maybe once or twice a fortnight. No dairy (dairy animals weren't domesticated at this point, and anyway there were no butter or cheese making techniques). No soy (wasn't developed). Things like almond/rice milk is also a no go. Calcium comes from certain types of green leafy vegetables, though most are recent hybrid species and juicing didn't exist. Also they won't eat a large variety of nuts as they are either hybrid varieties or weren't used til the Roman/medieval periods.

Snickles 4 kids; California 3077 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Snickles:</b>" My uncle is on the gerson method, he says he ... [snip!] ... had a disease or illness especially cancer I would do it in a heartbeat. It really amazes me. Have you seen the gerson miracle?"


no I haven't looked into it at all, I just know what they tell me. It is very strict, but he sticks to it. It would be very hard to do without an illness being the reason why. (hope that made sense), I mean as in being a normal healthy person I wouldn't be able to but with an illness, that would be the force driving me to stick to it.

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Master:</b>" are you doing true paleolithic?"</blockquote>




No I'm not big on red meat or pork. I do eat those occasionally. I haven't stated anything yet. I still eat grain, processed foods, meat and dairy. But I have limited it to about 20% of my total diet. I've added more fish, veggies, fruits, nuts, seeds, superfoids and dairy alternatives. I do some gluten free now. I'm transitioning. I've lost 25 lbs in about a 6 week period and kept it off 6 months with no exercise. I've stopped getting migraines and my skin has cleared up.




I was doing more research before going cold turkey lol but I plan to do a detox first. I was nursing so I didn't want to start until unwashed done nursing. I'm also doing oil pulling.



I feel so much better already

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting Tasha & Nika:" Ya know, I'm not out to prove anyone wrong or debate this.. I was just curious what you were doing ... [snip!] ... saying, if you are not excluding the idea of meat, because I do have a few ideas and recipes that include raw meat or fish.."


A lot of my friends doing true paleo diets get huge amounts of protein from insects like crickets/ants/ or some lavea.

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting jaela's♥mommy {BBM}:</b>" i did it for about 4 month and i actually lost 22 lbs. i dont have any gluten allergies, but my body ... [snip!] ... but it was hard mentally. bread, rice, and pasta are my comfort foods and i love them so its really tuff giving them up."</blockquote>




That's awesome! I do believe people need meat orvwe wouldn't have canine teeth. But I think meat should be limited. I eat wild caught fish only too and now I do grass fed, free range, soy free meats and dairy now.
Have you heard of eat right for your blood type? I personally just notice stomach issues when eating meat. I think in the long run I will eat some meat maybe 2 to 3 times a week. I'm being realistic about my goals.




Also I love zucchini pasta! I use a pasta thing that makes veggie noodles. I add sauce and it tastes the same. I've made nut breads which are not the same but still good. Rice is still ok but I eat brown or wild but I dont eat it often.bc of arsenic levels.

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Brink:</b>" We don't use bread often anymore. If we do we use a rice bread. I get it premade unless it's the weekend ... [snip!] ... He's a different kid. His skin is better, dark circles under his eyes are gone, happier, it has really helped him a lot. "</blockquote>




That is awesome! So he had a true celiac diseas huh poor kid.



I work too. That gives me motivation :)

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Tasha & Nika:</b>" Ya know, I'm not out to prove anyone wrong or debate this.. I was just curious what you were doing ... [snip!] ... saying, if you are not excluding the idea of meat, because I do have a few ideas and recipes that include raw meat or fish.."</blockquote>




Oh I wasn't trying to.be mean sorry lol



I was just telling the substitutes :) I'm not meat free yet so I would love some recipes ;)



What are your experiences starch free? Do u eat sweet potatoes corn or rice?

Tasha & Nika Due December 22 (boy); 1 child; San Jose, CA, United States 16036 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting The Master:" A lot of my friends doing true paleo diets get huge amounts of protein from insects like crickets/ants/ or some lavea."



Awesome - I've tried crickets and ants before, haven't had the luck to try any other creepy crawlies, but I'll take fish any day.. and are you implying that I said that meat is the only existing source of protein? Where?

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Master:</b>" It depends. Times are different now, you don't go out and hunt your food or spend 22 hours a day trying ... [snip!] ... Also they won't eat a large variety of nuts as they are either hybrid varieties or weren't used til the Roman/medieval periods."</blockquote>



Yea that is true paleo. I get that concept. Very interesting. Thank you :)

jaela's♥mommy {BBM} 1 child; Lewisville, Texas 10628 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" <blockquote><b>Quoting jaela's♥mommy {BBM}:</b>" i did it for about 4 month ... [snip!] ... which are not the same but still good. Rice is still ok but I eat brown or wild but I dont eat it often.bc of arsenic levels."


i always wanted to try zucchini pasta and spaghetti squash, but i have no idea how to make either. where did you find the veggie pasta maker??

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
2nd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Master:</b>" A lot of my friends doing true paleo diets get huge amounts of protein from insects like crickets/ants/ or some lavea."</blockquote>




Yea I'm.scared of that lol but I do know they are great sources of protein



So the muscular cavemen are probably false adaptations then huh

Tasha & Nika Due December 22 (boy); 1 child; San Jose, CA, United States 16036 posts
2nd Jan '13
Quoting momma melissa85:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Tasha & Nika:</b>" Ya know, I'm not out to prove anyone wrong ... [snip!] ... meat free yet so I would love some recipes ;) What are your experiences starch free? Do u eat sweet potatoes corn or rice?"


We've reverted back to normal for the holidays and such but usually we'll do rice no more than once a month, generally no potato, corn .. it's fine. We just replace it with a second kind of green veggies, or a salad course..



Bear in mind that we still do dairy, so that makes life easier in terms of no starches



So.. ceviches are awesome and very easy to do. I prefer mine with snapper, but have had some pretty good catfish ceviche.



It's all about the lemon and lime cooking the fish in their acids. A good pinch of finely chopped spicy peppers, and maybe some red or yellow bell pepper if you like it, we generally don't. A pinch of cilantro, some diced tomatoes if you want.. stir it all up, and let sit for 30min. The fish marinates lovely.



Tuna taretar is another option. I'll need to ask SO for the recipe, but it was awwwesome the last time he made it, spicy and tender. We eat a lot of raw fish heh just because we like it