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lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44076 posts
3rd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" yea I was like WTF?!?!?! really? I'm like they are fed and clothed and yes my house is a maze with toys, ... [snip!] ... told them occasionally my kids sleep in bed with me. Which is grounds for them to supposedly take away your kids. i'm like 0__0"</blockquote>



That's rediculus. Someone called on this family ere that has 7 kids and 2 adults Ina single wide. The kids don't like to sleep in their beds. They bunk with sibs or mom/dad. Cps came and said as long as they all had their own bed it was fine if they slept wherever they wanted.

j0des(+2) 18 kids; Virginia 5095 posts
3rd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" yea I was like WTF?!?!?! really? I'm like they are fed and clothed and yes my house is a maze with toys, ... [snip!] ... told them occasionally my kids sleep in bed with me. Which is grounds for them to supposedly take away your kids. i'm like 0__0"</blockquote>



I will die. I sidecar the babies bed with ours..while my 3yo has his own bed he sleeps in, he sleeps with us in the middle of the night. I also let my kid eat his meals whever he wants with a tv tray if he asks..



So Im a bad parent eh? Go figure.

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44076 posts
3rd Jan '13

If you're house is neglectfully filthy how the hell would they be able to tidy up in time even with a warning? I've seen nasty houses but there's a diff between neglectful and dirty. I do home visits for work twice a year and there have been houses I stand the whole time or sit on as little of the edge of the chair or couch as possible. But it doesn't mean their kids should be taken away. Cps can't discriminate against poverty. They have told us this many times. Poverty isn't neglect. Neglect is refusing to use te means you are given. So say cps comes and they're house is dirty and they find them a vacuum and some
Carpet cleaner and they come back and te house hasn't been cleaned, then there's neglect.

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44076 posts
3rd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting j0des(+2):</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" yea I was like WTF?!?!?! really? I'm like ... [snip!] ... of the night. I also let my kid eat his meals whever he wants with a tv tray if he asks.. So Im a bad parent eh? Go figure."</blockquote>




I'm reporting you now :wink:

j0des(+2) 18 kids; Virginia 5095 posts
3rd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting lolajessup:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting j0des(+2):</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" ... [snip!] ... he wants with a tv tray if he asks.. So Im a bad parent eh? Go figure."</blockquote> I'm reporting you now :wink:"</blockquote>




Oh noes!

P3RvYmCp3rv 2 kids; Carlyle, Illinois 11904 posts
3rd Jan '13
Quoting Reise's Mommy:" Uhh. What? Yeah, let's take children and put them in the system for eating in the living room and sleeping ... [snip!] ... because for some reason at lunch time if you put him in his high chair he screams like he's being killed. So what? Good grief."

Exactly! Get this though, Bd's house was past disgusting, Cockroaches, mouse feces, beer cans, marijuana and needles where the kids could get it. (didn't know any of this until after Audrianna came home with the end of a joint on her foot) and CPS said well they don't live with him. Welllll umm there is a court order stating they HAVE to have visitation with him, but because he doesn't live with him means he isn't responsible. Then they told me, well if you send them back over it will be considered neglectful and putting them in an abusive situation. Like raelly it is a joke here.

624582 Neilton, Washington 9312 posts
3rd Jan '13

No I do not think they should warn the parents.



They did warn me, well kind of. My son got out one morning while my BIL was staying with us, my BIL didn't lock the door before he left even though I gave him a key and put an emphasis on the fact that he needs to lock the door. My BIL left the key behind. I woke up at 8 am, snuck into LO's room thinking he was still asleep and he wasn't there. I ran out of the house in a panic, called 911, and the dispatcher told me that my son was at the leasing center of my community. When I arrived I was informed that I had to wait for the officer, the officer and I then walked over to my apartment to talk. He noticed that I had safety locks on my cabinets, electric outlet guards, and asked why I didn't have anything on the door. I grabbed the handle cover, that was under my kitchen sink, and explained to him that I put it on, but it was loose so I took it off. I've never seen one before so I didn't know that was how it was supposed to fit. I know that may sound strange to some people, but I have seriously never seen one on a door before. Before he left I asked if I was going to be visited by a social worker, he told me that I would. Later that evening I got a call from a social worker, she needed the gate code to get into the community. She came in, we talked, she took pictures of LO to verify that he didn't get hurt on his adventures, and the case was thrown out. My situation is a little different from a dirty home and suspected abuse, though.

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27912 posts
status 3rd Jan '13
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" They absolutely shouldnt inform people. It's better to catch people in their natural state, not putting on a show for someone because they "think" they may get into trouble."


This. And we had a friend of my sisters call DCF because she was pissed at my sister. They came and my sister said "The kitchen isnt tidied, we havent been home" and they said "On the contrary, we DONT want to see a spotless house because that can hint that something is wrong just like a too dirty house. We want to see a comfortable, lived in house."

wombie 4 kids; Zimbabwe 73281 posts
3rd Jan '13

I think it kind of defeats the purpose of their visit if they're going to give the parent's a heads up as to when they're coming and WHY they're coming.



I mean, they're pretty much telling the parents what they have to hide and how long they have to do it :?



If they're going to warn them on the first visit, whatever.....I think it's stupid, but whatever.....I'm not sure if it's a legal thing, like they are required to notify them first or what. However, if they do that, then maybe after the first visit they should tell the parents that they can and will make follow up visits which will be unannounced.......and then don't make those visits a week later. Give it a month or two, when they're not on high alert and have settled back into their routines. That way they can see what is REALLY going on. I'm not one to try to bust parents for frivolous things, however, I think it's dumb to warn them ahead of time. Obviously they're not going to be doing whatever it is that they're accused of doing when they know the authorities are coming.



I called on a family member years ago (and I'm not one to usually do stuff like that). At the time, her child was less than a year old and was being left in a crib all day long.....like 8-12 hours. It was summer, 90 + degrees outside and the home had no a/c and the baby was in a room with the windows and the door closed. Mom had a problem with partying too late at night and she'd go to bed around 5 or 6am and then sleep the entire day. I suppose she may have taken a bottle or sippy cup in to the baby here and there but otherwise the baby was left in the same diaper all day and with very little food or drink and NO interaction with anyone......and like I said, it was hot as hell and she was in a stuffy, closed up room. Anyway, I called. They went out, but they told her they were coming the day before :? So of course she was ready for them and they found no issues.

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44076 posts
3rd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting wombie:</b>" I think it kind of defeats the purpose of their visit if they're going to give the parent's a heads up ... [snip!] ... went out, but they told her they were coming the day before :? So of course she was ready for them and they found no issues."</blockquote>



Ugh how awful :(

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27912 posts
status 3rd Jan '13
Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:" yea I was like WTF?!?!?! really? I'm like they are fed and clothed and yes my house is a maze with toys, ... [snip!] ... told them occasionally my kids sleep in bed with me. Which is grounds for them to supposedly take away your kids. i'm like 0__0"


This scares the shit out of me because of what hapened when I was little. When I was little I hated clothes, HATED them. I always walked around n**e. I walked around n**e until I was like 13. The cops came during a fight with my sister one day and I locked myself naked in the bathroom, I was like 11. I wouldnt come out since I was naked and the cops thought I was being sexually abused because I was "too old" to be n**e in front of family. Lily loves to be naked and will snuggle in bed with me or my Mom naked at times. I think its sickening that people turn an innocent situation into something bad. Lily is just not allowed to be around my nephew or (ex) SO's son naked, but otherwise the kid hates clothes. So do I... so why make a big deal over it?

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44076 posts
3rd Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting FroggysMommy:</b>" This scares the shit out of me because of what hapened when I was little. When I was little I hated ... [snip!] ... to be around my nephew or (ex) SO's son naked, but otherwise the kid hates clothes. So do I... so why make a big deal over it?"</blockquote>



Me and dd hate clothes too. SO calls us his nudists haha

Reise's Mommy 2 kids; Kentucky 1724 posts
3rd Jan '13
Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:" Exactly! Get this though, Bd's house was past disgusting, Cockroaches, mouse feces, beer cans, marijuana ... [snip!] ... send them back over it will be considered neglectful and putting them in an abusive situation. Like raelly it is a joke here. "


:shock: Wow. Just wow.

Ryloonjimama Australia 18851 posts
3rd Jan '13

I'm quite torn on this, because if you catch me on a bad day, my house is messy as shit, washing/kitchen piles. Also, my kids are nudists, they both have lots of good clean clothes, but at home they just strip. Plus, I live in my pyjamas unless going out. I sure as hell don't neglect my kids but from an outsiders perspective, it could look bad.... but then again, I understand the perspective that people who do neglect their kids, can make it look like they don't.

P3RvYmCp3rv 2 kids; Carlyle, Illinois 11904 posts
3rd Jan '13
Quoting FroggysMommy:" This scares the shit out of me because of what hapened when I was little. When I was little I hated ... [snip!] ... to be around my nephew or (ex) SO's son naked, but otherwise the kid hates clothes. So do I... so why make a big deal over it?"


That is how my kids are! lol They absolutely hate clothes! It could be 65 in my house and what do they do. STrip down.