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ⓖⓡⓘⓝⓒⓗ 2 kids; Azeroth, .., United States Minor Outlying Islands 16415 posts
Jan 4th '13
Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:" Yeah it did. The guy was on my dad's unit and I guess he got his face sliced up. My dad goes, "It doesn't ... [snip!] ... matter that his face isn't pretty any more, no one will look at it. They'll just grab his ears from behind for leverage." :D"


I dont know how your dad stomach's it. I couldnt be around all those evil people all the time. That has to weigh on you, seeing them and knowing all the horrific things they did.

I'm His Amy He's My Rory 2 kids; Caldwell, Idaho 49366 posts
Jan 4th '13
Quoting Cap'n Obvious:" Hahahahhah! That's awesome! If I remember right, he killed some family members and took two children ... [snip!] ... them, right? I was a teenager and didn't watch much of the news then, but I remember this story sticking out to me."


Yeah he murdered an older sibling, mother and step dad in front of them. Then kidnapped them, then eventually killed Dylan in front of her after a while and kept her as a sex toy. Someone spotted her in a Denny's in northern Idaho with him and called the cops.

I'm His Amy He's My Rory 2 kids; Caldwell, Idaho 49366 posts
Jan 4th '13
Quoting LittleTiger:" I dont know how your dad stomach's it. I couldnt be around all those evil people all the time. That has to weigh on you, seeing them and knowing all the horrific things they did."


It's turned my brother slightly psycho. He accused my husband of molesting my niece because she started her period because he assumes everyone is a rapist now. My dad couldn't even change his kid's diapers when they were little because the stupid shit my brother accuses. My dad is retired now but he moved up the ranks pretty quick so he didn't deal with the inmates unless they got into trouble. He's 5'7" and when he walked onto the block, murderers would cower and apologize before they even knew what he was there for. He has a very commanding personality. We may be little but we're very intimidating lol. My mom's old boss was scared to be alone in a room with me because I'm like my dad with my intimidation lol

ⓖⓡⓘⓝⓒⓗ 2 kids; Azeroth, .., United States Minor Outlying Islands 16415 posts
Jan 4th '13
Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:" It's turned my brother slightly psycho. He accused my husband of molesting my niece because she started ... [snip!] ... intimidating lol. My mom's old boss was scared to be alone in a room with me because I'm like my dad with my intimidation lol"


Eek. I can only imagine. My mom used to watch Lifetime movies when I was growing up. Lifetime goes through phases where they play tons of different movies about certain topics. During my childhood, it was all about molestation and rapes. I was petrified between the movies, the news and the things my parents and friend's parents were saying about it. I ended up having some issues because of it that I'm still dealing with.

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 23103 posts
Jan 4th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Squeaky McGee:</b>" I've heard this, too. But honestly, is it more costly than keeping a criminal in jail, giving them 3 hots, a cot and medical care until they die? I don't see how it's that costly."</blockquote>



Yes with all of the appeals it is more costly for death penalty

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25439 posts
Jan 4th '13

Pro. I wish it was eye for an eye

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 23103 posts
Jan 4th '13

It is costly for our country. With all of the forced appeals and paperwork it's not cost effective.

Mrs Mia Wallace Due May 9; 33 kids; 3 angel babies; Georgia 2859 posts
Jan 4th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting HopingforaMiracle:</b>" It is costly for our country. With all of the forced appeals and paperwork it's not cost effective."</blockquote>



Agreed.

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25439 posts
Jan 4th '13

Out of curiosity... anyone know statistics on how much it costs to house an inmate for life, including meals, healthcare, electricity, water, and personal hygeine stuff?

Is it less than appeals and whatnot?

I'm His Amy He's My Rory 2 kids; Caldwell, Idaho 49366 posts
Jan 4th '13
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" Out of curiosity... anyone know statistics on how much it costs to house an inmate for life, including ... [snip!] ... for life, including meals, healthcare, electricity, water, and personal hygeine stuff? Is it less than appeals and whatnot?"


It's about 30k a YEAR here.

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25439 posts
Jan 4th '13
Quoting Jas ♥:" It depends on the state. Housing inmates on death row cost more than "regular" housing for inmates. ... [snip!] ... Death penalty costs millions and the numbers are rising. One day, it will be billions of dollars for one death penalty case."


Hmmm. well im just thinking a normal inmate. One girl said it was like 37k a year. so what would 37k x 60 be? Do you think it would be more cost effective?

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 23103 posts
Jan 4th '13

These figures are for California.



LWOP-approximately $44,563 a year
DP-$90,000 additional to that cost. A year. Not to mention the cost of appeals and such.



Typically death penalty people stay on death row for an average of 20 years. Due to their waits being extended by mandatory appeals. A figure I saw was for a 34 year sentence of LWOP for feeding, housing and keeping secure that inmate it would amount to approximately $1.598 million.



On the contrary for death row for 20 years it could cost a total of $2,742,040.



The breakdown for a LWOP is:
$19,663 security
$12,442 healthcare
7,214 prison operations such as maintenance and record keeping
$3,493 administration
$2,562 food, clothing and activities
$1,612 rehabilitation
$116 miscellaneous costs



http://m.mountain-news.com/mobile/news/crime_log/article_4f1e45f8-5630-11e0-93da-001cc4c002e0.html

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25439 posts
Jan 4th '13

What happened to a fair and speedy trial. IMO, they should put a time limit for appeals and such. make it a max of 5 or so. Shouldnt take that long to retry an inmate for their appeal, IMO

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25439 posts
Jan 4th '13
Quoting Jas ♥:" I have no idea. Money aside, death penalty trials seem to prolong the victim's family's suffering. A ... [snip!] ... suffering. A lot of people think that someone is sentenced to death and they die a year or so later. It doesn't work that way."


True... and many victims' families may not live to see their justice served. I mean.. what's the point of 20 years sitting there?

Ellie. 2 kids; Arizona 25439 posts
Jan 4th '13
Quoting Jas ♥:" Right? I understand wanting to make sure you're executing the right person but 20 years? It shouldn't take that long."


And it's all tax payer money. smdh