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user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
10th Jan '13
Quoting justanothamotha:" That link says it is more likely around 25% and that the 25% does not mean false reporting or false accusation, ... [snip!] ... merely that the specific accused is innocent. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194032,00.html#ixzz2HamBiJhb"


yeah i know what the article said. I read it.

there is no way to get a real straight up number that is RIGHT. there are so many different variables in a situation like this. but I do know more its than 2% i agree with that.. that would only be 2 out of every 100 rapes.. and I deff think it would be higher. maybe im completely wrong, but coming from i know and have been personally been through I know alot of young girls like about this kinda stuff. so they dont get introuble they turn consentual sex into rape and obvously DNA would confirm that if a condom wasnt used, and I have also known girls who BF broke up with them claimed he raped them and got her pregnant on purpose only for her to say she pushed the cum in her vagina to try and get pregnant. I wold much rather it be 2% but I just dont think its THAT low.

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5406 posts
10th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" yes i read it... i understood it, and it made sense to me, its not saying IT IS 40% but if its "inconclusive" ... [snip!] ... way more than 2%. i can name like 5 girls right now that i know falsely accused rape.. i wish it wasnt like that, obviously."</blockquote>



"That link says it is more likely around 25% and that the 25% does not mean false reporting or false accusation, but incorrect identification of the perpetrator.



quote: First, the category of 'false accusations' does not distinguish between accusers who lie and those who are honestly mistaken. Nor does it indicate that a rape did not occur, merely that the specific accused is innocent.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194032,00.html#ixzz2HamBiJhb"



^ Every single thing she just said.

user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
10th Jan '13
Quoting xTJ:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" yes i read it... i understood it, and ... [snip!] ... is innocent. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194032,00.html#ixzz2HamBiJhb" ^ Every single thing she just said."


i quoted her : )

Mrs Mia Wallace 33 kids; Georgia 2858 posts
10th Jan '13

It's sick to assume the victim(s) are to blame.
I read and have followed both cases. The India case is just assbackwards...NO amount of prayer would've kept those men from doing what they did.
The Ohio one was trying to be covered up because they were jocks, respectable (used loosely, as one is the son of a lawyer defending these assholes) and Anonymous is about to finish blowing their shit out the water!
http://localleaks.blogs.ru/

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5406 posts
10th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" yeah i know what the article said. I read it. there is no way to get a real straight up number ... [snip!] ... say she pushed the cum in her vagina to try and get pregnant. I wold much rather it be 2% but I just dont think its THAT low."</blockquote>




Ok you say from your own experience of knowing girls who cry rape that is why you don't believe it. Let me ask you then from these examples you have given were these just young girls half heartedly saying "oh he raped me." then dropping it or are we talking about you know of people who have reported the incident to the Police, went to court and proceeded with the whole thing. If you are also talking about going to court are these incidents you have personal knowledge of was the rape unproven or did the person actually admit to completely fabricating the story? In fact even these incidents you have personal experience of if they didn't go to court and it was even half heartedly said did they actually turn around and admit to completely fabricating it or not and if they did do you know if they were threatened or persuaded into doing so? You also mention girls deliberately trying to fall pregnant and going to extreme lengths to do so, well there is quite a difference between duping a man into pregnancy by tampering with birth control and rape. Quite how you have made the connection between women who tamper with birth control meaning that women falsely cry rape I do not know :?

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5406 posts
10th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs Mia Wallace:</b>" It's sick to assume the victim(s) are to blame. I read and have followed both cases. The India case is ... [snip!] ... defending these assholes) and Anonymous is about to finish blowing their shit out the water! http://localleaks.blogs.ru/"</blockquote>




I'm really glad Anon have gotten involved with this, I agree with a lot of stuff they do. Honestly I think I'm a bit in love with Anonymous lol

user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
10th Jan '13
Quoting xTJ:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" yeah i know what the article said. I ... [snip!] ... you have made the connection between women who tamper with birth control meaning that women falsely cry rape I do not know :?"


one did go to court, for statutory rape, and was acused and the girl never wanted to do it but her parents pushed for her to do it. Personal Friend. The other girl AFTER making a police report eventually came clean and it didnt go to court. and im not saying I think its more than 2% because of JUST those stories, but I believe it is more than 2% based on what studies i have seen. there are probably better studies out there we could research in. Im not saying LOTS of girls are lying, I just believe that its more than 2 out of 100.. idk how thats so terrible.

user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
10th Jan '13

Okay so the 40% was used more back in the day,
in 2005 a study showed it was 3%....



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics



False reporting
Main article: False accusation of rape
FBI reports consistently put the number of "unfounded" rape accusations around 8%.[8] However, "unfounded" is not synonymous with "false" allegation.[9] The largest study, published in 2005, was based on 2,643 sexual assault cases and found 3% of false reports.[10][11][12] A much criticized[13][14][15] 1994 study of 109 rape complaints made between 1978 and 1987 found 41% of false allegations.[16]
A 2006 review of studies of false reporting in the United States, New Zealand and the United Kingdom concluded:




"Two conclusions can be drawn from this review of literature on the prevalence of false rape allegations. First, many of the studies of false allegations have adopted unreliable or untested research methodologies and, so we cannot discern with any degree of certainty the actual rate of false allegations. A key component in judging the reliability of research in this area relates to the criteria used to judge an allegation to be false. Some studies use entirely unreliable criteria, while others provide only limited information on how rates are measured. The second conclusion that can be drawn from the research is that the police continue to misapply the no- crime or unfounding criteria and in so doing it would appear that some officers have fixed views and expectations about how genuine rape victims should react to their victimisation. The qualitative research also suggests that some officers continue to exhibit an unjustified scepticism of rape complainants, while others interpret such things as lack of evidence or complaint withdrawal as
KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5406 posts
10th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ☮ Phuket:</b>" one did go to court, for statutory rape, and was acused and the girl never wanted to do it but her parents ... [snip!] ... research in. Im not saying LOTS of girls are lying, I just believe that its more than 2 out of 100.. idk how thats so terrible."</blockquote>



See parents forcing a girl to go to court and proceed with statutory rape when she is admitting to having given consent is very different from a woman completely fabricating a story about being raped. Again very misleading to use those examples.

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
10th Jan '13
Quoting ☮ Phuket:" one did go to court, for statutory rape, and was acused and the girl never wanted to do it but her parents ... [snip!] ... research in. Im not saying LOTS of girls are lying, I just believe that its more than 2 out of 100.. idk how thats so terrible."

There is no such thing as consensual sex if the age difference is great enough. So unless sex didn't occur, you can't be falsely accused of statutory rape just because the underage person was willing. It is not uncommon in such cases for the parents to be the ones to press charges as the "victim" is most often unwilling to do so.

Mrs Mia Wallace 33 kids; Georgia 2858 posts
10th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting xTJ:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs Mia Wallace:</b>" It's sick to assume the victim(s) are ... [snip!] ... Anon have gotten involved with this, I agree with a lot of stuff they do. Honestly I think I'm a bit in love with Anonymous lol"</blockquote>




So am I. :lol:

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5406 posts
10th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs Mia Wallace:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting xTJ:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs Mia Wallace:</b>" ... [snip!] ... I agree with a lot of stuff they do. Honestly I think I'm a bit in love with Anonymous lol"</blockquote> So am I. :lol:"</blockquote>



:) Yes but I think I'm on the weird side of it now like a strange attraction. When I was watching interviews with @kyanonymous who is leading steubenville case I was thinking "Mmmmm I bet you're hot!" Lol It's bit like Bane in The Dark Knight Rises, I was drooling! My DH has an Anon mask and on Halloween he had on a black suit and hat and the mask I was like come here you!...... Yeah effin' weirdo :?

user banned 4 kids; Mueang Phuket, Thailand 30487 posts
10th Jan '13
Quoting justanothamotha:" There is no such thing as consensual sex if the age difference is great enough. So unless sex didn't ... [snip!] ... is not uncommon in such cases for the parents to be the ones to press charges as the "victim" is most often unwilling to do so."


this is exactly what happened...

Mrs Mia Wallace 33 kids; Georgia 2858 posts
10th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting xTJ:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs Mia Wallace:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting xTJ:</b>" ... [snip!] ... an Anon mask and on Halloween he had on a black suit and hat and the mask I was like come here you!...... Yeah effin' weirdo :?"</blockquote>



Lmao!
I know a guy who was (Idk if he still is because I haven't talked to him in almost a year) a part of Anon. And he was freakin sexy as hell! Not when you first meet him but after getting to know him, hear him speak, see the way he carries himself...omg!



I actually thought about joining their plight but I know I couldn't keep my identity hidden over the internet.



And, no, you're not weird....Bane IS sexy....I like Christopher Walken and Allan Rickman. :D

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
10th Jan '13

The first story was bull and actually pretty crazy. It's a messed up world.



The girl in Ohio didn't deserve rape. No one deserves rape. She put herself in a bad spot, though. You have to be on the defensive all of the time. I have gone to several self defense classes and of course no one deserves to be raped, but in all three classes we were taught basics about not putting yourself in a position where you can't control the situation. It's a dangerous thing to go out and drink with people you can't trust. Alcohol inhibits your ability to think clearly and make sound decisions. I'm pretty sure, if I'm thinking of the same article, that she was at a party, drinking, and someone put a roofie in her drink?



Poor girl, though. My God, what they did to her was evil.