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Emmy's Mom 1 child; Indiana 1831 posts
11th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Clk:</b>" When I was twelve I didn't have breasts like most of peers, I was made fun of, should my parents of gotten ... [snip!] ... myself to look "pretty" or "less ugly." The people who matter to me love me for me, that is why my parents allowed me to be me."</blockquote>




I agree with this completely.



It's her kid, though. So she's entitled to do as she pleases, but I would think she's just sending a message to her daughter that looks are very important, when they really shouldn't be.

Interrobang!? 6 kids; Ontario 1176 posts
11th Jan '13
Quoting Clk:" Actually you did pretty much sum me up lol. I have a mole on my face, there is no medical reason for ... [snip!] ... face, drippy nose, and watery eyes. It's like saying my husband would divorce me because he saw my hair before I brushed it."

Seeing someone before they brush their hair or in labour is much different than living with someone who is habitually sloppy and unkempt. If your husband likes living with someone who doesn't take any pride or care in their appearance, great for him. Just don't expect the rest of the world to appreciate that.



The world is not divided into good people and bad people based on whether they care about their appearance, or even whether or not they choose their friends based on those who keep a minimal level of neatness or not.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8555 posts
11th Jan '13
Quoting Emmy's Mom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Clk:</b>" When I was twelve I didn't have breasts like most ... [snip!] ... but I would think she's just sending a message to her daughter that looks are very important, when they really shouldn't be."


But you know, actually looks ARE very important. Should they be? No. But depending on what kind of career you pursue, how you handle your appearance can make or break you. I am not an image-driven person. I wear blue jeans and ugly shoes and no makeup ever. I barely brush my hair, which hasn't been cut in years. Because I'm just kind of a hippy who has always thought that what's inside is more important than what's outside. Dh loves me no matter what I look like, as do my friends. But it's human nature to judge by appearance when we have no other information about the person. I was made fun of by "mean girls" at my last job for wearing ugly (comfy) shoes and not being makeuppy enough. I'm tall and thin and have pretty eyes and they just couldn't understand why I didn't doll myself up like a model everyday. But I didn't want to! Those women are awful, horrible, shallow, fake jerks and it's their loss. But you can't say that looks don't matter. They absolutely do, and it sucks but it's true.



I would never put my LO in a position to be in the public spotlight in the first place, but if for some reason she was, if there was some simple fix to keep the bullies a little bit quieter, then I'd do it.

Clk 2 kids; Dexter, Michigan 11973 posts
11th Jan '13
Quoting Interrobang!?:" Seeing someone before they brush their hair or in labour is much different than living with someone who ... [snip!] ... their appearance, or even whether or not they choose their friends based on those who keep a minimal level of neatness or not."


Ah yup you got me, I take zero pride in myself lol. There is really no need to get insulting just because I disagree with you. I don't see the world as black and white as you assume I do either. I just don't believe in pressuring our daughter's to look perfect 100% of the time. I have a three year old daughter just like the girl in the OP, I don't see a need to put makeup on her, cut her hair to latest style, nor to wax her. To me it sends a negative message to our kids that even Mom thinks you are ugly unless you don't have a unibrow.

Clk 2 kids; Dexter, Michigan 11973 posts
11th Jan '13
Quoting Stfu Shirley:" But you know, actually looks ARE very important. Should they be? No. But depending on what kind of career ... [snip!] ... place, but if for some reason she was, if there was some simple fix to keep the bullies a little bit quieter, then I'd do it."


I understand dressing up for a job, give me a blouse and good pants and yes I can look professional.That said I don't see most emplyers telling employees they must dye their hair blond or wax their legs to look professional. I know looks are important in certain situations as far as what you are wearing, but I don't think kids need to look 100% perfect celebrity's kid or not.



Unfortunately kids are bullied for everything and anything. Even the kids who do look perfect on the outside do get teased. It's sad, but we as parents can't stop it completely. The little girl in OPs post will most likely be teased for who her mother is, a teen celebrity, that isn't something that can be changed.