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HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 22942 posts
12th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Live-Laugh-Love:</b>" Dude, i feel like an idiot...I was supposed to be quoting someone else and then I got caught up reading other comments and accidentally quoted you..sorry!"</blockquote>



I was thinking that Lex wasnt being offensive or defensive at all. So I was wondering what else was going on

Mrs. Conan O'Brien 2 kids; Colorado 20924 posts
12th Jan '13
Quoting Live-Laugh-Love:" Dude, i feel like an idiot...I was supposed to be quoting someone else and then I got caught up reading other comments and accidentally quoted you..sorry!"



oh okay lol

Live-Laugh-Love 3 kids; Kitchener, ON, Canada 8133 posts
status 12th Jan '13
Quoting HopingforaMiracle:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Live-Laugh-Love:</b>" Dude, i feel like an idiot...I was supposed ... [snip!] ... I was thinking that Lex wasnt being offensive or defensive at all. So I was wondering what else was going on"


Yeah..that made zero sense to what she said haha

HopingforaMiracle 1 child; USA 22942 posts
12th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Live-Laugh-Love:</b>" Yeah..that made zero sense to what she said haha"</blockquote>




LOL

Live-Laugh-Love 3 kids; Kitchener, ON, Canada 8133 posts
status 12th Jan '13
Quoting P Pickle Pants:" Abuse and neglect can be a one time thing that the parent feels bad about and tries to change... Its just not criminal unless it becomes habit. And mistakes still hurt babies."


my comment was supposed to be to you...



You don't make mistakes then? I didnt realize I was speaking with mother Teresa.

P Pickle Pants 98 kids; California 20522 posts
12th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Live-Laugh-Love:</b>" my comment was supposed to be to you... You don't make mistakes then? I didnt realize I was speaking with mother Teresa."</blockquote>




I have made a mistake, sure. none that left them screaming for me til they passed out. And none that seriously endangered them.



And a "mistake" is a lot different than standing there and doing NOTHING while watching your INFANT child scream for you for a long period of time and thinking they're "playing" you instead of offering comfort.

Boobo&bugs 2 kids; Simpsonville, South Carolina 7693 posts
status 12th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting P Pickle Pants:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Live-Laugh-Love:</b>" my comment was supposed to be to you... ... [snip!] ... your INFANT child scream for you for a long period of time and thinking they're "playing" you instead of offering comfort."</blockquote>




I get what you're saying. But I think op really just didn't know what else to do. We've all been there we just handled it differently. I've left DD crying to pee alone. Cause I had to to keep my sanity. I feel bad about it. But sometimes we all do things we're not proud of. If it was something she did regularly I would agree with you. But I don't think she does and it was an honest mistake.

Live-Laugh-Love 3 kids; Kitchener, ON, Canada 8133 posts
status 12th Jan '13
Quoting kate & tilly:" <blockquote><b>Quoting P Pickle Pants:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Live-Laugh-Love:</b>" ... [snip!] ... of. If it was something she did regularly I would agree with you. But I don't think she does and it was an honest mistake."


:!:

Ashley Plante 1 child; Maine 17 posts
14th Jan '13

So to update everyone, my daughter was cutting a tooth and thats why shes been so fussy. I had no clue.
After sharing this thread with another group I came to the conclusion that everyone parents differently and everyone has their own opinion on how to parent.
What you may see as cruelty could be the norm for my family. In reality, you don't know the other person well enough to judge.
Thank you to the moms who actually gave me useable advice.

P Pickle Pants 98 kids; California 20522 posts
14th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Ashley Plante:</b>" So to update everyone, my daughter was cutting a tooth and thats why shes been so fussy. I had no clue. ... [snip!] ... In reality, you don't know the other person well enough to judge. Thank you to the moms who actually gave me useable advice."</blockquote>



Just because it's common doesn't make it healthy.



What you call normal can be neurologically damaging if it becomes habit. That is medical fact.

A is Me 1 child; South Carolina 3782 posts
14th Jan '13

I think what really got me talking was the fact that you said you were against cry it, yet you practice it. You are very misinformed so we wanted to inform ya.

Live-Laugh-Love 3 kids; Kitchener, ON, Canada 8133 posts
status 14th Jan '13
Quoting P Pickle Pants:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Ashley Plante:</b>" So to update everyone, my daughter was cutting ... [snip!] ... common doesn't make it healthy. What you call normal can be neurologically damaging if it becomes habit. That is medical fact."


I have a 2.5 year old and a 6 month old and I do not let them CIO but my 6 month old has severe reflux and cries/screams on a regular basis...
even when he is being held...
So, by your logic babies with reflux, colic etc are also being neurologically damaged?

P Pickle Pants 98 kids; California 20522 posts
14th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Live-Laugh-Love:</b>" I have a 2.5 year old and a 6 month old and I do not let them CIO but my 6 month old has severe reflux ... [snip!] ... basis... even when he is being held... So, by your logic babies with reflux, colic etc are also being neurologically damaged?"</blockquote>




Nope. Babies left to cry without comfort and nurturing until they pass out.



It's a lot different than a baby who is sick or hurt who is getting comfort and cannot be comforted.



My son had reflux. But I damn sure didn't leave him to scream til he passed out.

Ashley Plante 1 child; Maine 17 posts
14th Jan '13
Quoting P Pickle Pants:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Live-Laugh-Love:</b>" I have a 2.5 year old and a 6 month old ... [snip!] ... is getting comfort and cannot be comforted. My son had reflux. But I damn sure didn't leave him to scream til he passed out."


She didnt scream til she passed out. She barley screamed at all. Just whimpered.
I was also leaning over her crib comforting her and talking to her. I just didnt pick her up. She stopped after a few and calmly went to sleep. Which shortly after she woke up and played on the floor til 5am.
Would I do itagain? No.
Do I consider that one time to cause her "neurological damaged"? No.
What happens when babies cry in the car and you cant stop to comfort them?



Crying it out to me means putting them in their crib and walk away. I should of said that form I am agents.
My baby is the happiest you will ever meet. She is ahead in developmental, so social and loves to laugh. No matter what I say I can't change the minds of the people who think Im a cruel mother. Heres the number to DHHS so you can report how horrible and abusive I am to my daughter. 207-286-2400.



Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone has done something with their child they wish they could change. Even if you havent yet, you will and you will understand how I felt.

2manykidz 4 kids; Minnesota 765 posts
15th Jan '13

I think you did a good job personally.