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Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
12th Jan '13
Quoting Destiel:" I have Borderline Personality Disorder, General Anxiety Disorder, Panic Disorder, and I'm a recovering hoarder. I honestly couldn't tell you where it all stems from."


I also have a anxiety and panic disorders, so I know how that feels. It sucks. Suicide has crossed my mind many times, but I just think of my loved ones. I couldn't do that to them.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
12th Jan '13
Quoting bbbt:" I also have a anxiety and panic disorders, so I know how that feels. It sucks. Suicide has crossed my mind many times, but I just think of my loved ones. I couldn't do that to them. "


I'm fully aware that my family would be better off without me.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
12th Jan '13
Quoting Destiel:" I'm fully aware that my family would be better off without me."


I bet that's not true.

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 26814 posts
13th Jan '13
Quoting whitney ♥ ainsley:" Do you believe it's selfish when someone commits suicide? If yes, have you ever tried to kill yourself, ... [snip!] ... illness? I'm just curious as to what others think after I found out about a conversation my boss had with my co-workers. "


It is not selfish.



Suicide is horrible, but in the mess.... it can be beautiful too.



My friend killed himself in a seriously tragic way but I do not blame him.

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
13th Jan '13

Do you believe it's selfish when someone commits suicide? I guess it could be in certain circumstances, but generally speaking, no.



If yes, have you ever tried to kill yourself, or do you know someone that did? I have known people who did, one was a good friend.

Do you think if someone didn't succeed in killing themselves they didn't really want to die? sometimes....but not necessarily.

If you've tried to kill yourself, do you have a mental illness? no & no



I have at times wished I would go to sleep & just not wake up again, but I have never thought about actually killing myself. Not sure how else to explain it.

♥ in 32 kids; Matosinhos, Portugal 1495 posts
13th Jan '13

YES, it is selfish. Very selfish, actually. We are only thinking about us since we're only ending our own suffering but increasing our family and friends' suffering.



Have I ever tried it? Never. Have I ever thought about it? Yes, of course. I think everyone who has to struggle with something unimaginable thinks of that at some point in their lives. When I lost my best friend, to Leukemia, I started having hallucinations of her everywhere, and when I was old enough to realize they weren't true, that she would never come back, I planned to kill myself. I wanted it to end. I was barely 13,14.. But my pain was so great that I felt numb all the time. We were like sisters.. I screamed in the middle of the night, threw myself to the ground.. I did all kinds of maniac stuff.. And at the end of the day, I wasn't nuts - I was grieving something I never thought I'd be strong enough to grief.



But truth is.. the reason why I didn't kill myself was becausw:



1). I realized that even though I was feeling so much pain, I had the whole future ahead of me. I had children to have, a graduation to achieve, a job to find, a wedding to celebrate. So many joyful things.. They all made me hang on to life. I've always had this incredible passion for life itself.. And I would never want to loose it. I thought about it again, when I lost my daughters.. but for the same reasons, the idea quickly faded.



2). One of the main reasons was my mom, and my intire family. How would they feel? I'm pretty sure my incredible mom and dad would have their lives turned into a living nightmare, and I could never do it, knowing I'd be causing that.



However, I take these things very seriously.. and anyone who needs any kind of help can come to me. Let's persuit happiness. TOGETHER.

Lucid Dreamer Florida 3821 posts
13th Jan '13

I can't really judge whether or not it is selfish because it has never happened with any friends or loved ones in my life. I myself have never thought of doing it though there were times when I had death wishes. As for people who attempt and don't die some really did not want to die but there are others who did. One reason for sure I would never consider taking my own life because I am certain I would have to feel the pain of sorrow I would cause family and friends once I crossed over and eventually I would have to reincarnate and once again face that which I tried to escape from.

Silverkoala TTC since Feb 2005; Sydney, Australia 5302 posts
14th Jan '13

Do you believe it's selfish when someone commits suicide? Beyond selfish, those left behind become destroyed.
If yes, have you ever tried to kill yourself, or do you know someone that did? Yes I have and it is something I would NEVER do now. Having bee through the pain of losing someone to suicide I could never destroy the people I love the way I am currently destroyed.

Do you think if someone didn't succeed in killing themselves they didn't really want to die? No, when I tried I can admit sometimes it was purely for attention but there was one time I set out to actually die and was found before it was too late.

If you've tried to kill yourself, do you have a mental illness? Yes, I am bipolar.



My husband killed himself less then 4 months ago and given my history everyone was scared I would then kill myself. It put so much into perspective for me, I fight everyday to get out of bed, I do seriously want to die just so the pain will stop but I can honestly say I would NEVER put my family through what I am going through. My mum and best friends are so close to me and I would never wish them this kind of pain. When I attempted to kill myself I was an idiotic teen and mostly it was about the attention and wanting the pain to stop. I only ever set out once to really die, my mum found stuff on the computer of me looking up exactly what drugs interacted badly with what I had in the house, but I don't remember much of it as it was a bad reaction to medication I was on for my bipolar.

Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42775 posts
14th Jan '13

Yes, it's selfish. You're doing something without regards for others.
But then...wanting someone to continue living in misery so YOU don't have to feel the pain of losing them is selfish too.



And no, I think most people who commit or try to commit suicide really want to die in that moment. If they fail it's usually from their nerve failing at the last moment, or someone finding them before they die.

Mrs Mia Wallace 33 kids; Georgia 2858 posts
14th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Vodka Knockers:</b>" I feel like when people are in a situation where they're thinking of committing suicide, they're not ... [snip!] ... and not put on medication that made my situation worse, I probably wouldn't have as many suicide attempts on my record as I do."</blockquote>
:!:
This, exactly!
I have BPD also with other issues and it's overlapping symptoms throw drs off.



To answer the OP:
Is it selfish? No
do I know anyone who's done it? yes
have I tried? yes
have I been diagnosed with mental illness? yes



I've had several friends take their life, ranging in age from 15-22, numerous ways, married, children etc. and one of my only two cousins committed suicide 5 days before Christmas at the age of 18. He was supposed to come visit, was supposed to be on a bus, but his mom called at 3 something in the morning to tell us she found him hanging on their porch. The song "If I Close My Eyes Forever" by Ozzy & Lita Ford was playing over and over....
It's been 22 years this past December and I still have a lot of trouble with it.
His life was horrible and it's even more horrible that he thought, like many do, it was the only way out.

user banned 2 kids; Hamilton, Ontario 19220 posts
14th Jan '13
Quoting Silverkoala:" Do you believe it's selfish when someone commits suicide? Beyond selfish, those left behind become destroyed. ... [snip!] ... with what I had in the house, but I don't remember much of it as it was a bad reaction to medication I was on for my bipolar."


Im sorry to hear about your husband. I pray for your strength

Lucid Dreamer Florida 3821 posts
14th Jan '13
Quoting Destiel:" I'm fully aware that my family would be better off without me."

No matter how you feel about yourself you really do have a purpose here. Hang in there. I care even though I don't know you

♥ Jessi ♥ 2 kids; Alaska 23137 posts
15th Jan '13

I lost my cousin November 2011 to suicide.
it's one of the hardest things I've experienced in my life, losing my best cousin that way, I didn't understand it, I was angry, hurt, confused. I wanted to know why, that's what I ask myself everyday, WHY. He was gorgeous, had a great job working for Boeing for many years. His girlfriend cheated on him, and I guess he snapped, she found him hanging in the closet after she couldn't get a hold of him (they were still friendly) never in a million years had I would have thought we'd lose him like that. There were no signs he was depressed or suicidal.... as far as if I think it's selfish, idk.... I don't understand how someone could take their own life, no matter how hard life gets....

⚓Misty⚓ 4 kids; Keenesburg, Colorado 7272 posts
15th Jan '13

Do you believe it's selfish when someone commits suicide?
Yes i do think its selfish. SOs dad found out that his mom was cheating on him and went out to the garage & shot himself with a shotgun. He gave no thought on how it would affect his 2 sons (ages 7 & 10) who were home and awake at the time. SO has some serious issues from this & he has a lot of resentment towards his mother also
A friend of mine was in the middle of a divorce and when he found out his wife had started dating again he shot himself. He left behind 5 kids all under the age of 18 & now they will miss out on having a father
If yes, have you ever tried to kill yourself, or do you know someone that did?
No i have never tried to kill myself...... See above
Do you think if someone didn't succeed in killing themselves they didn't really want to die? Sometimes. My cousin would try numerous times to overdose of tylenol but would call his GF right before and tell her



If you've tried to kill yourself, do you have a mental illness?

Silverkoala TTC since Feb 2005; Sydney, Australia 5302 posts
15th Jan '13
Quoting Shannonsfirst:" Im sorry to hear about your husband. I pray for your strength"

Thanks. :)
It has seriously been the worst thing I have ever had to deal with. :(