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user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
13th Jan '13
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user banned Des Moines, Iowa 1848 posts
13th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting LEGENDARY JAS ♥:</b>" You don't have to discuss it to know the average salary for a pedi nurse lol. I just looked it up. PNs make between 77k to 94k a year, on average. Also depending on their place of work."</blockquote>




Well I never looked it up. All I know I she is taking her kids to where my daughters went briefly. She has been employed at providence for two years and you know what,
Why am I even discussing this?
Making a point based on BS is not helpful at all. If you are questioning whether I'm doing this, chances are this is how you prove your points.
I don't believe everything I read. But when a person tells me their personal experience, I generally don't see the value in arguing that. So question her situation, but it doesn't change things

James Mama 3 kids; Arizona 2845 posts
13th Jan '13
Quoting Safka9973:" <blockquote><b>Quoting LEGENDARY JAS ♥:</b>" You don't have to discuss it to ... [snip!] ... personal experience, I generally don't see the value in arguing that. So question her situation, but it doesn't change things"


I just do not understand why people continuously have children that they cannot afford.

user banned Des Moines, Iowa 1848 posts
13th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting James Mama:</b>" I just do not understand why people continuously have children that they cannot afford."</blockquote>



Me neither. Especially the parents who don't take care of their kids. Not a snide remark. I'm talking about really crappy parents who seem to not understand what causes pregnancy. The welfare moms you hear about who keep popping them out and having their kids taken away.

CrapBag. 3 kids; Minnesota 7925 posts
13th Jan '13
Quoting Safka9973:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Emily Dickinson:</b>" Excuse me? So working mothers are not ... [snip!] ... work at McDonald's and miss out on their child's life to me seems to have no benefit. Esp with the crazy costs of child care."


It makes me lol that you think someone else is raising working mother's children.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
13th Jan '13
Quoting Safka9973:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Holly and girls!:</b>" I do not think the government should ... [snip!] ... I think rather than paying day care assistance they should pay maternity leave. Seems pretty simple to me."


wow that's a load of bullshit. Your country is YEARS away from being able to afford something like a maternity leave policy, you need as many citizens working as much as possible to start paying taxes.



Here we get 18 years paid at min wage OR $5000 - $3000 cash for each child. We also get a pro-rata'd amount of daycare benefit depending on how much we earn. We afford this by paying taxes that in America would have everyone rioting in the streets (I pay 32c in the $1).



However we also have all our benefits (except disablity) stopped when our youngest child hits school age. You either work or you get nothing, women in this country are EXPECTED to work when their kids are in school no ifs or buts.

BrittanieY 18 kids; South Carolina 16634 posts
14th Jan '13
Quoting Safka9973:" Our government has decided to assist people in NOT RAISING their children. And whether you choose to or not, you are already supporting other people's kids..."


http://shine.yahoo.com/work-money/9-things-never-working-moms-224100768.html

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22978 posts
14th Jan '13
Quoting Safka9973:" After posting about Maternity leave a few days back, it came to my attention how few women and men are ... [snip!] ... a SAH parent? Or do you prefer the current way US treats families- supporting both parents working rather than supporting SAH?"


I'm in favor of this issue being decided by the parents and employers. If a company wants to offer extended leave, paid or unpaid, that is their decision.
If a couple decides they wish to have a parent at home, they should plan accordingly. I do not believe the governement should take a role is supporting or failing to support this decision for employers or parents.

Tig Ol' Bitties 2 kids; St Catharines, Ontario 2746 posts
14th Jan '13
Quoting Safka9973:" <blockquote><b>Quoting James Mama:</b>" I just do not understand why people continuously ... [snip!] ... understand what causes pregnancy. The welfare moms you hear about who keep popping them out and having their kids taken away."


What an insensitive and illogical statement.



I have known "welfare moms" who have worked hard to provide their children with the best possible start in life (Which I believe was your initial arguement? Government pays so you can hang out with your kid?) and I have know rich parents who are complete not invested in their child's development.



Similarily, I have known parents with children in daycare who spend every moment they are together engaged in fun, educational and empathy building activities and SAHP's who stick their children in front of the TV with donouts all day.



If you are so happy with your own situation, that is good for you. I don't know however how you can seriously place so many inconsistant and judgemental opinions on other parents.

Mama Rice 34 kids; North Las Vegas, Nevada 11980 posts
15th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Saffy Sly:</b>" People are productive citizens when they have basic social skills and are aware of how the world works. ... [snip!] ... honest, to be a stay at home mom. Let's be honest, most SAHMs don't get their kids out to socialize with their peers. "</blockquote>



I know with my DD I was a working mom most of her life and she is much more likely to be social with other kids, with my DS I have been a SAHM more than half his life and he clings to me and will not play with other kids. I am guilty of not being as socially active with my kids as a SAHM than when I was working.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31316 posts
status 15th Jan '13

The government shouldn't have to assist someone to stay home. If they want to stay home, then they should be able to provide for themselves and stay home.
We have enough freeloaders in this country & don't need any more programs to give people more incentive to mooch.

Barfy McVomitron Due July 19; 4 kids; Glen Burnie, Maryland 29256 posts
15th Jan '13

I stay at home and don't see why the government should financially support that. I chose to have kids...the gov't didn't decide that for me.