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meggymama Due July 30; 97 kids; United Kingdom 510 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting Viv, Ev & Gwen ♥:" I think cribs are unsafe in general. We cosleep."


As a 50/50 co-sleeper with DD I plan to do the same with this baby, we had the moses basket right next to the bed and she started out in there but then stayed in with us from about 1-2am each night until I was brave enough to just go for it and fully co-sleep.
I wont be quite so scared this time around i dont think but will probably follow the same way, DD slept in her big cot from around one year but mainly in with us I also this had and has alot to do with my stance on cot bumpers too. My DD is mainly in her own bed now but still has the sensor pad in her bed and if she is remotely ill I know she is safest in with me.

Erin Krumwiede Due February 15 (boy); Minnesota 106 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting .Colleen.:" If any of that were actually true, you would get off the social forum and the media information and ... [snip!] ... pretend to be so well informed when you have not even read any studies about sids. You're a joke. Go read a book "


Lol I never said I was well informed dear,
I am actually looking at the links others on this forum have sent me for perusal.
as I was not able to find many before, I love reading books but alas they have not written one yet on this subject that I can find lol but thank you for the advice I shall and am looking into it.

Erin Krumwiede Due February 15 (boy); Minnesota 106 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting .Colleen.:" :lol: tl:dr I am also familiar with the Straw man and you're not fooling anyone :wink: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html"


Lol a very interesting read I am glad you can come to the conclusion of who I am and tell me I am missing the point when all I have asked for is information. If you have it and believe I am not well informed...well educate me. I am not telling you that everything I say is in a book or spoken by some statistician I am bringing in my viewpoint I dont know everything, I know things from general ares I have learned from. But your mocking comments has not made much of an indent into this learning process, however I appreciate the time you take in responding.

Erin Krumwiede Due February 15 (boy); Minnesota 106 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting .Colleen.:" How can it possibly be questionable if the cause if death relates to precautions? That makes zero sense and I am done wasting time here. "


It is questionable since not every person who uses bumpers has had their infant pass away. And if you feel you are wasting your time then that is your conclusion to which I agree our conversation has not gotten farther than us questioning each others way of thinking rather than the point.

Erin Krumwiede Due February 15 (boy); Minnesota 106 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting Viv, Ev & Gwen ♥:" I think cribs are unsafe in general. We cosleep."


I have heard some various friends and parents mention they do this also.
Would you care to elaborate on it more? I would love to hear your thoughts! :)

Erin Krumwiede Due February 15 (boy); Minnesota 106 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting Preggo ✖ Status:" My cat is seriously pissing off my baby, I woke up the other day to my baby crying and laying on top ... [snip!] ... crib tents now because of it but its not because I thnk he will hurt or her smother...just because he interupts her sleep!"


Lol goofy cat, Its funny when they think all they are doing is extending affection and we are like wtf? lol I will be watching my kitty very closely and he will be outlawed from the crib, I will keep the crib tent in mind though just in case this furry child of mine doesn't agree. ;) I was very amused by your your story though lol thank you for sharing

Erin Krumwiede Due February 15 (boy); Minnesota 106 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting Preggo ✖ Status:" This too, I don't necessarily think theyre unsafe but I do co-sleep more than I use a crib, my baby ... [snip!] ... crib, my baby is only in her crib if I am not napping with her or if the husband and I want some one on one time to ourselves."


I have brought up the idea to my hubby a few times and our general concern with it was the seperation problem with when we do decide to put our son in his own room. Have either of you heard or had any experiance with how difficult this may or may not be? Would definatly make me feel more secure to know where he was and how he is sleeping every night lol

Erin Krumwiede Due February 15 (boy); Minnesota 106 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting meggymama:" As a 50/50 co-sleeper with DD I plan to do the same with this baby, we had the moses basket right ... [snip!] ... mainly in her own bed now but still has the sensor pad in her bed and if she is remotely ill I know she is safest in with me."


Thank you for sharing, I am pleased too hear some thoughts on the subject from mothers who have tried this, I have contemplated it and will have to see what my comfort level is when he is born but we have agreed to start with a bassinet by our bed and go from there :)

user banned Logan, Utah 3594 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting Erin Krumwiede:" I have brought up the idea to my hubby a few times and our general concern with it was the seperation ... [snip!] ... this may or may not be? Would definatly make me feel more secure to know where he was and how he is sleeping every night lol"


It wasn't easy separating my now 4 year old into his own room, we started at about 2 and 1/2 and he had a hard time with it. He is now 4 and still asks to sleep with me, he will sleep on his own though but there are many nights that I wake up with him under the covers by my feet.

Erin Krumwiede Due February 15 (boy); Minnesota 106 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting Preggo ✖ Status:" It wasn't easy separating my now 4 year old into his own room, we started at about 2 and 1/2 and he ... [snip!] ... sleep with me, he will sleep on his own though but there are many nights that I wake up with him under the covers by my feet."


Awww that is kinda cute, Its funny a friend of mines first was a boy and when she heard I was going to have my son she says "oh they are such mommas boys you will love it" lol

3 little monsters 3 kids; Olathe, Colorado 50990 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting Erin Krumwiede:" It is questionable since not every person who uses bumpers has had their infant pass away. And if you ... [snip!] ... to which I agree our conversation has not gotten farther than us questioning each others way of thinking rather than the point."


That doesn't mean the connection of suffocation from crib bumpers is questionable, it just means that it's not a guarantee. Like smoking can cause cancer but it doesn't mean it will. An infant can smother and die from rolling into a crib bumper which is why there is a risk factor to using them, it doesn't mean it going to happen but just because it doesn't happen to every child doesn't mean there's no risk of it happening at all.

Erin Krumwiede Due February 15 (boy); Minnesota 106 posts
Jan 17th '13
Quoting 3 little monsters:" That doesn't mean the connection of suffocation from crib bumpers is questionable, it just means that ... [snip!] ... mean it going to happen but just because it doesn't happen to every child doesn't mean there's no risk of it happening at all. "


Agreed thank you for clarifying I realize now my post was a bit vague on explaining just that lol.
And yes there is still the issue with it happening and that is the overall fear with the bumpers, I am thinking after this discussion I will be just using mesh bumpers and seeing how things go, but will in the beggining be using a bassinet anyways soooo we shall see how it goes.

Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42788 posts
Jan 17th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Erin Krumwiede:</b>" I have heard some various friends and parents mention they do this also. Would you care to elaborate on it more? I would love to hear your thoughts! :)"</blockquote>




There's not really much more to elaborate. My daughter slept in bed with me until she was 3 and still at 5 sleeps more nights with me than alone. This baby will too.

Blaine Edwards 1 child; Georgia 13858 posts
Jan 17th '13

we used the breathable mesh bumpers. i was too paranoid to use regular bumpers with dd.

user banned TTC since Apr 2014; 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15320 posts
Jan 17th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Erin Krumwiede:</b>" I realize you have a very strong opinion in this matter and I am glad, in no way was I blaming the media ... [snip!] ... it... That does not mean I can just jump on every bandwagon that claims they know what is best...I must seek the truth myself,."</blockquote>




The safety and education bandwagon?