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user banned 1 child; Boston, Massachusetts 30985 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting ♥Sandy Cay♥:" If you want to subdue someone, you use your less than lethal things, such as taser, mase, asp, etc. A gun is lethal. You pull out your gun to use deadly force."


i dont know what to tell you -- that's not standard operating procedure here in boston.

Gone 17 kids; Miami, FL, United States 15414 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting MunchkinWrangler:" You can tell there was no knife with how frantically the cop was looking for a knife to justify his killing. ... [snip!] ... are trained to do so. THAT is what sets me completely over the edge. That poor woman just wanted to save him. That was awful."


:!::!:



He did look completely frantic and kept saying "I'm just looking for that knife he had."



Watching her made me cry :(

♥MOBAS♥ 2 kids; 1 angel baby; California 7198 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting Ur Local Frnt Desk Clrk:" Everyone I know says it's completely justified, and to me it seems so excessive."


In my opinion this was excessive. IF he did have a knife he in my opinion was not posing a threat at the point that the officer began firing his gun. The officer should have used his stun gun instead because to me it looked like he was just going to run.

Wiggity Wack 1 child; Connecticut 10780 posts
20th Jan '13

I don't know how the hell that cop got off scott free. He should be in prison. The video clearly shows that he gunned that guy down like a madman. That's not self defense, in my opinion. One round is self defense. He continued to fire after the guy hit the ground.

♥ in 32 kids; Matosinhos, Portugal 1495 posts
20th Jan '13

Meanwhile, in America..



I thought policemen were meant to know better. Guess I was wrong.

♥MOBAS♥ 2 kids; 1 angel baby; California 7198 posts
20th Jan '13

I just found the DA report.



http://www.scribd.com/doc/116792988/Edward-Duenez-Jr-DA-Report

user banned 1 child; Boston, Massachusetts 30985 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting ♥ in
......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
20th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Hoot.:</b>" When cops are trained to shoot, they're all trained to shoot to kill. I think this guy went over the top though for sure."</blockquote>




I think that policy needs to change. Too many people are killed because an officer thought they seen a weapon.

Wiggity Wack 1 child; Connecticut 10780 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting shes*almost*one!:" Are you for real? A 16 year old foreign child looking down on US issues and politics? It's pretty comical. ... [snip!] ... the same token I see you discussing foreign politics and gun laws and acting all high and mighty. Sweetie, you haven't a clue. "

No it was not justified. It is obvious from the video that he used excessive force. Yes, the police officer was human, but he was a human who went through months intense training to deal with this type of situation. He also had gun marksmanship training.
I'm training to be an RN. If I ever hurt a patient by panicking while on the job, I'm not just going to be able to shrug my shoulders and say, "Oh well, I'm only human." :?

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
20th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting James Mama:</b>" How pathetic they cuff a man who is bleeding to death and limp on the ground. And what kind of officer ... [snip!] ... crap all the time. I understand they have a dangerous job but that's what they chose to do. Nobody forced them to be a cop."</blockquote>




I was thinking the same..I thought part of their job was to help people? I kept thinking, "why aren't they doing CPR?"

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
20th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Saffy Sly:</b>" "Put your hands up" "Don't move or I'll shoot" Make up your f**king mind cop-dude."</blockquote>




I guess he was supposed to stand in midair. He was on his way out of the truck...he didn't even give him time to do either..ugh.

user banned 1 child; Boston, Massachusetts 30985 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting Wiggity Wack:" No it was not justified. It is obvious from the video that he used excessive force. Yes, the police officer ... [snip!] ... by panicking while on the job, I'm not just going to be able to shrug my shoulders and say, "Oh well, I'm only human." :?"


A. Completely different scenarios.
B. I AM a nurse. I have been hurt by a patient.
C. You have absolutely no idea how you would react in a situation that has not happened to you before. Don't come on here all high and mighty with your community college "nurse" training and tell me what you "would" do.

Wiggity Wack 1 child; Connecticut 10780 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting shes*almost*one!:" A. Completely different scenarios. B. I AM a nurse. I have been hurt by a patient. C. You have absolutely ... [snip!] ... before. Don't come on here all high and mighty with your community college "nurse" training and tell me what you "would" do."

a. Not really. Both professions require that you stay calm in scary situations.
b. I don't really see how that is relevant to the argument. I was talking about a nurse hurting a paitent due to panicking, not the reverse.
c. The point I made is that as a police officer, he was trained specifically for that type of situation, and rather than acting appropriately he emptied an entire f**king clip into a suspect that it turns out wasn't holding a weapon.
Check your bitchy attitude. It's not needed. This is a debate.

user banned 1 child; Boston, Massachusetts 30985 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting Wiggity Wack:" a. Not really. Both professions require that you stay calm in scary situations. b. I don't really see ... [snip!] ... clip into a suspect that it turns out wasn't holding a weapon. Check your bitchy attitude. It's not needed. This is a debate."


You made absolutely no sense. Nothing you said was factual nor made a valid point.



How do you know how you will react in a stressful / scary situation when it has NEVER happened? Oh, right.. because you don't know.



Also why do you say you're a medical assistant student, but here you're saying you're a student nurse? Are you doing one of those online programs?

Wiggity Wack 1 child; Connecticut 10780 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting shes*almost*one!:" You made absolutely no sense. Nothing you said was factual nor made a valid point. How do you know ... [snip!] ... you're a medical assistant student, but here you're saying you're a student nurse? Are you doing one of those online programs? "

Check your messages.
What have I said that didn't make sense?
Yeah, no shit. I haven't been in a situation like that. I'm not a police officer. The man in question is, and should be well prepared to deal with hostile/potentially combative suspects.